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<DIV>M<BR><BR><B><I>"William R. Monroe" <pianotech@a440piano.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Matthew,<BR><BR>As I said before, I'd repin in this situation. I would also opt for taking<BR>it to the shop - depending on what kind of drive time you would face. It<BR>certainly could be done in the home, but my experience is that these things<BR>often take more time than you expect, and further, especially as you are<BR>getting the hang of the procedure, it might be nice to not have the client<BR>looking over your shoulder.<BR><BR>I'd check each flange, repinning to get each one at a consistent swing<BR>number. I know some techs will opt for obtaining a specific level of<BR>friction (6 grams, 7 grams, graduating, etc.). I don't know that either<BR>method is superior to the other provided you understand the process and what<BR>each is telling you - e.g. 7 swings on a bass hammer will have more friction<BR>at the pinning than 7 swings on a treble hammer - all other things
being<BR>equal.<BR><BR>What is the make of the piano BTW? Curiosity..........<BR><BR>Respectfully,<BR>William R. Monroe<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Matthew Todd" <TODDPIANOWORKS@YAHOO.COM><BR>To: "Pianotech" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:36 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?<BR><BR><BR>> Some of the worst hammers there don't swing at all. About six of them are<BR>that bad, and others have between one to two. There are some others that<BR>"seem" to be fine. I say "seem" because I tested their piano by playing it<BR>first, finding the really bad ones, then taking the action out and really<BR>examining them to pinpoint the problem.<BR>><BR>> Matthew<BR>> "William R. Monroe" <PIANOTECH@A440PIANO.NET>wrote:<BR>> Hi Matthew,<BR>><BR>> You wrote: "Could this just be related to swelling?"<BR>><BR>> Only you can tell us. Is it humid there now? Does it get dry in the<BR>> winter,
and then, are the hammer centers more free? You'll need to do some<BR>> analyzing yourself and determine what is your best solution. If the<BR>hammers<BR>> are really seized up (less than a couple swings), I'd be comfortable<BR>saying<BR>> that it's not just humidity, and opt for repinning. Of course, if the<BR>> bushings are all full of nastys, maybe needs new bushings?<BR>><BR>> Once you've determined the cause of the problem, then determine the<BR>solution<BR>> that works for you and your client.<BR>><BR>> Respectfully,<BR>> William R. Monroe<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Matthew Todd"<BR>> To: "Pianotech"<BR>><BR>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:20 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: Repinning....Can I pullease get more responses?<BR>><BR>><BR>> > I believe I will take the action home with me. These are hammer centers.<BR>> The hammers are very tight to move! Could this just be related
to<BR>swelling?<BR>> ><BR>> > This is not a Steinway. I don't believe I have the Mannino, but I do<BR>have<BR>> a set I ordered from Schaff, and a good center pin punch.<BR>> ><BR>> > Matthew<BR>> ><BR>> > J Patrick Draine wrote:<BR>> > Matthew,<BR>> > If you are already skilled & speedy at repinning action parts, go for<BR>> > it. But it sounds like you aren't so ... bring the action to your<BR>> > shop. It will probably take you more than 4 hours (are these hammer<BR>> > centers? jack centers? damper lever centers??).<BR>> > Why are you repinning? Parts frozen up? Are treatment with Protec<BR>> > CPL, or sizing the bushings with an alcohol/water solution, viable<BR>> > alternative solutions?<BR>> > Is this a Steinway?? If so, it's likely you're dealing with<BR>> > verdigris, and repinning is seldom the correct remedy (parts<BR>> > replacement is best).<BR>> > Give us
more details and we'll be able to give more precise advice.<BR>> > Do you have appropriate tools? The Mannino broaches, a quality center<BR>> > pin punch, etc?<BR>> > Patrick Draine<BR>> ><BR>> > On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Matthew Todd wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > > I will be undergoing a repinning project on a client's grand. The<BR>> > > "G" Piano Works guide says it takes 4 hours. Is it appropiate to<BR>> > > do this project in the client's home, or do I need to take the<BR>> > > action with me and do it in the shop? If I take the action with<BR>> > > me, that brings up another question. If it's raining, how do you<BR>> > > all prepare and protect the grand action??<BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ---------------------------------<BR>> > Yahoo!
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