<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>When I put the stack on a flat surface, all feet (except one) sit flat. Gravity seems to be pulling down enough to level it out. = When I stand the stack up on one end (so the long axis is vertical) and place = the feet along a flat surface, then I can see which ones are out of whack. I = added the out-of-whackness of the stack feet to the out-of-whackness of the feet recepticles in the action frame and made suitable shims. I am now in the = process of leveling keys, etc. and we will see how this works.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is really horrible trying to do a job one can be proud of = without being able to do what is needed. Oh, well, I guess we all have been down = that road before. Thanks for your input.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Terry Farrell <SPAN = id=__#Ath#SignaturePos__></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fish@communique.net = href="mailto:fish@communique.net">Warren Fisher</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 27, 2001 = 12:33 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Warped Action = Parts</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>  <P>Farrell wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> What is an "action standard"? I have = now shimmed the action bracket feet. Is that what you are referring to? <P>Yes, different terms for different learning backgrounds. = <BR>  <P>End blocks all tight. Entire front edge of keyframe mates = perfectly to keybed. What do you mean regarding checking the wippen rail for = level - are you asking is it warped? Yup, it is warped a little bit, much like = the hammer rail. Thanks for your input/interest. <P>It doesn't take much warping to change the key dip.  If the = feet are all the same length put the stack on a flat surface and you should = be able to tell which ones are off. <P>Warren <BR>  <BR>  <BR>  <BR>  Terry Farrell <SPAN id=__#Ath#SignaturePos__></SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fish@communique.net = href="mailto:fish@communique.net">Warren Fisher</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 26, = 2001 8:59 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Warped Action Parts</DIV> Terry, You may have to figure out which action = standard is causing the problem and shim it. When you leveled in the piano = did you put the end blocks in and screw them down?  Did you check the = whippen rail for level? <P>Farrell wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> <STYLE></STYLE> <FONT size=-1>"The first thing you need to do is level the key = frame on the keybed. Then</FONT> <BR><FONT size=-1>proceed from there: = level keys, set dip, install stack and regulate. "</FONT> That was the = whole problem here. I did level the key frame on the keybed. I did = level keys (I even did a few with the frame in the keybed to see if it = changed anything - it didn't). But when I install the stack to regulate, = all of a sudden the key leveling is way out of whack! My stack is = bending the rear of the keybed upward in the middle. I am in the midst of = making appropriate shims so that stack installation does not stress the = flatness of the keyframe, and installing additional rear = keyframe hold-downs to work against the warped keyframe. "Nothing a new = piano wouldn't solve!" Terry Farrell <SPAN id=__#Ath#SignaturePos__></SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: = 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message = -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Wimblees@AOL.COM href="mailto:Wimblees@AOL.COM">Wimblees@AOL.COM</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 26, = 2001 6:24 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Warped = Action Parts</DIV> <FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=-1>Terry</FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=-1>Earlier there = was a discussion of bench regulation. However, there is a = time</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=-1>and place for = that. it appears that your situation calls for a complete = in</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=-1>piano regulation.</FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=-1>The first = thing you need to do is level the key frame on the keybed. Then</FONT></FONT> = <BR><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=-1>proceed from = there: level keys, set dip, install stack and regulate.</FONT></FONT> <P><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=-1>Willem</FONT></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>-- = <BR>Warren Fisher RPT <BR>fish@Communique.net <BR>1422 Briarwood Dr. = <BR>Slidell, LA 70458-3102 <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>-- <BR>Warren Fisher RPT <BR>fish@Communique.net <BR>1422 Briarwood = Dr. <BR>Slidell, LA 70458-3102 <BR>  </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>