<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Avery</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You are right Avery 2 CPS (CYCLES PER = SECOND) is 8 cents I think the problem is I'm talking cycles you are talking = cents does that makes sense. "You are suppose to laugh"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=avery1@houston.rr.com = href="mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com">Avery</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 08, = 2006 6:43 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 440 vs 442</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Ron, <BR><BR>At 08:45 PM 2/7/2006, you wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=2>Hi Joe<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>I'm sorry but I still would = have to see it to believe it. He would have to play a couple more pianos for me. = I have had occasions where the artist or stage manager pulled out a meter = and checked the pitch.  Are you sure he didn't have one. 2 cps out = of 440cps, 4 cps out of 880cps 8 cps out of 1760. = </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Am I missing something here. Isn't 442 + 8 cents difference @ A4? = <BR><BR>Avery Todd<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=2>I'm = sorry Joe,you will have a hard time convincing me.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT = size=2>Thanks anyway for the contribution on A440. I am collecting ideas and back = up for the Symphonic Assoc.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Ron May<BR></FONT>----- Original Message ----- <BR> <DL> <DD>From:</B> <A href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">Joseph = Garrett</A> <BR> <DD>To:</B> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech</A> = <BR> <DD>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:14 PM<BR> <DD>Subject:</B> Re: 440 vs 442<BR><BR> <DD>Mr May said: "I have suggested that there isn't an ear in the = world that can hear the difference between 440 and 442 "<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>NOT! I've personally had experiences where the Artist knew = damned well what pitch the piano was at! One, incidence: Tete Montilo, a = Spanish Jazz Muscician of extremely high caliber. He is blind and only has good = hearing in one ear. During a Jazz Festival, I enjoyed his playing and told = him so. His comment was that the Steinway D was nice but it would have = been nicer if it were at 442. At that time, I didn't consider that he could = really know. After the Festival, he was scheduled to do a private party = in a local Night Club, on a different piano. I was asked to tune for = it. On a whim, I set the piano at 442, just to see if he could tell. I = didn't tell anyone.<G> Immediately after the first "set", he had his = sister steer him to me. He was quite jubilant and said: "Thank you, so = much, for tuning the piano at 442. It makes my music better!" Yes, there are = those who can tell the difference. Do I advocate 442? Not no, Hell No! = IMO, it's just stupid. But, that's just my o! pinion. Does it make the piano = project better? I don't think so, but there's no way to really tell.<BR> <DD>On the few, rare occasions, that I do concert work, where 442 = is requested, I will only do it, IF the artist will pay for the = retuning of the instrument back to 440. So far, none have agreed to that, so = they get 440! IMO, the venue should not have to bear the cost of this = nonsense.<BR> <DD>Regards,<BR> <DD>Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)<BR> <DD>Captain, Tool Police<BR> <DD>Squares R I<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD><BR> </DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>