<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=windows-1250"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle19 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=blue link=blue bgColor=white> <DIV>Thanks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Went to the = California State Conference and am signed up for National (the Hotel is what kills = ya). Thought about going to MARC and even talked to some CTE's out there = about testing. But my credit card is starting to whimper so enough for this year!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Congrats on = RPT. Both in a day sounds brutal.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV align=left>Alan R. = Barnard</DIV> <DIV align=left>Salem, MO</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left>-----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Jerry Cohen Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:23 = PM To: 'Pianotech' Subject: RE: Where's the action (cloth)? </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> Alan,   I took my = RPT exams last fall (both in the same day). Titebond = works well. Just pull the bushing cloth through the flange. Then put a small dab = of glue with a tooth pick on the cloth, just outside of each prong of the = flange. Then pull the cloth so the glue is in the flange. Insert a pin for sizing, = and let it dry while you do other tasks. After the glue dries, remove the pin, = cut the cloth with a sharp razor blade, and ream the bushing for exact size. = It’s easy, so don’t waste points on something which is easy to do. As for = cloth, Pianoteck bushing cloth works perfectly well.   BTW, are = you planning to attend the MARC convention in Penn. next = month? They give a fantastic all day technical exam prep class. I took it last = year.   Jerry = Cohen, RPT NJ Chapter   -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 = 6:20 PM To: 'Pianotech' Subject: RE: Where's the action (cloth)?   <DIV> Wow ... it IS hard to = say things right and I missed the mark, too! I had taken no offense at your post, = mi amigo. In fact, I appreciated your reply, as = always.</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Now the dilemma is that = I'm soon to take the RPT Technical Exam (I know, finally, at long last, what = kept ya?) which requires rebushing a grand hammer flange. No waiting = overnight allowed, I'm told</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> In fact, a concern I = have is that I will go to all the trouble to glue the felt in then push out = some of it out when I pin/ream/burnish the darn thing--and then = be out of time. So it may not be the best "shrink sized" or "soft felt" center = in the world, but I want something that will be adequate, set up fairly fast, = and HOLD. But no, I don't want to take a glue pot to the convention just = to make two little globs o' glue.</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> I'm thinkin' Titebond or = maybe PVC-E.</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> What have others used in = this kind of time-crunch repair? That's what I'd like to know.</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> Alan R. = Barnard Salem, = MO <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"> -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] = On Behalf Of = Terry Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 = 1:00 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Where's the action (cloth)? <DIV> You are welcome. I = apologize - sometimes I know my responses as a teeny little bit smart a$$y. You = are correct - their felt products are not on the web site. I simply = called them. You can order as many or as few as you wish. Only one size. If = I recall correctly, they are $2 per strip (but I could be WAY off with that).</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> I honestly don't know = how to rush drying the bushings. I've always just done it in my shop and = had the luxury of time. I'd be tempted to experiment with other glues like = Titebond in the shop first to make sure it didn't go too far into the felt = (maybe use sparingly and let air dry until tacky???).</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Have you used the = Renner bushing felt before? Be sure to use their training tool (to get = the felt to go through the flange easy. I pull my felt through the = flange, one cut, thread a bunch of flanges on a long center pin wire (or = individual wires), and then apply a 50/50 mix of water/alcohol and let dry = overnight. Works great. Depending on how much friction you are after = controls what size wire you use to for sizing. </DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Terry Farrell</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: = medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt = 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: = medium none"> <DIV> ----- = Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> From: <A title=tune4u@earthlink.net = href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">Alan</A> </DIV> <DIV> To: <A title=pianotech@ptg.org = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV> <DIV> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:58 PM</DIV> <DIV> Subject: RE: Where's the action (cloth)?</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Well, = thanks Terry. </DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> I had = checked out their website but if they post any prices or even list their felt = products on there, they sure have them hidden. I emailed them. Do you have = to call them to order, THEN find out the cost? If so, that would be very = Steinway of them.</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> I = guess for field repairs, one could dab on a little = Titebond.</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> Alan = R. Barnard Salem, MO <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"> -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] = On Behalf Of = Terry Sent: Tuesday, March 15, = 2005 4:40 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Where's the action (cloth)? <DIV> <DIV> Alan R. Barnard asks:  </DIV> <DIV> "Who sells Renner cloth?"</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Ummmmmm......... = Renner  <A href="http://www.rennerusa.com">www.rennerusa.com</A> = . I just ordered some from them a week or so ago. I assume you are = speaking of action center bushing cloth (that's the pre-glued stuff)?</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> "From those who use it, please: Bill Spurlock says to let the pre-glued = stuff dry for "several hours." This would not seem to work if used for = field repairs or the RPT Technical ... thoughts?"</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Yup, takes a few hours - at least. I just let it dry overnight. How well do = you know your client?</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Might need to use plain cloth and hot hide glue - oops, there we go again, now = we've got to heat hot hide glue on-site - for one little action center = bushing?</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Just might need to bring part back to shop, fix and return at a later date. = "Quality work can't be rushed!" Check out some of the piano manufacturers = web sites - I'm sure you'll find some good sounding stuff there from = their marketing departments....</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> "What stock of sizes should one purchase, not for shop work but just the odd = field repair?"</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> I = stock all of their one size - that way I can always have the right size!</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <DIV> Terry Farrell</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV>  </DIV>   -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / = Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 03/09/2005</BLOCKQUOTE>   -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus = Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: = 03/09/2005</BLOCKQUOTE>   -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus = Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: = 03/09/2005</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> -- No virus found in this outgoing = message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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