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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Isaac.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I read in Wolfenden that the brass =
instruments in
orchestras are tuned to A 440 Hz, but they all have this ennoying =
feature to
dramatically raise pitch (up to A 444 Hz) during concert performance, =
through
warming up when played. So A 442 Hz would have been chosen to =
allow the
whole performance (brass plus other more stable instruments) to be =
reasonably in
tune, or, so to say, half less out of tune.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is it so ? (Wolfenden is talking =
in beginning
of this century, maybe brass instruments have evolved since =
then).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stéphane Collin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Brussels, Belgium)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=oleg-i@wanadoo.fr href="mailto:oleg-i@wanadoo.fr">Isaac =
OLEG
SIMANOT</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 07, 2002 =
10:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: 442 & =
back</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Hello, Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>Even
Yamaha pianos are build for the 442 pitch lately I guess,( I've =
read that
on their guarantee card) so it will not affect structure of the =
piano
anyway.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>The
fact is that everyone (musicians) here is asking for "concert pitch"
442 as a standard.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Then, having to change pitch any direction is always a =
hassle, when I
have to do that for Radio France for example, I need to be allowed to =
bring
the piano to his desired pitch 2 days before the event, so it can =
stabilize
better. After that the pitch stay as it is since another express =
demand
comes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>On
pianos with tensioned hammers, the difference in sound is sensible,
and easily accepted by the instrument I believe, not that I =
don't
like the 440 pitch, but I am more often dealing with 442, and get =
acquaintance
with it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Beside, if I sing a A by memory it is the 440 that I learned =
in my
younger days, and I am more close to it than to 442 (generally, I know =
David
will not believe me, but I recognize any note instinctually, and have =
a good
notion of A440 when not too tired)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>I
wonder how high are your brass instruments tuned in USA ? Not that I =
am sure
of that, but I believe that most brass and wind instruments in =
Europe are
actually build to play at 442Hz .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>Any
info from wind players ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>All
the best</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Isaac OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=792235919-07052002></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B>
owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]<B>De la =
part de</B>
Steve Kabat<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> mardi 7 mai 2002
19:49<BR><B>À :</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> =
442 &
back<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David- Obviously some educating is =
in order, to
try to instruct people who feel that a higher pitch is needed. Other =
than
that , I would: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> =
a. refuse
to tune at a higher pitch, citing structural piano reasons, tuning
stability</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial =
size=2>
b. insist that they give a few days lead time so that the =
piano can
stabilize, and =
refuse to do it if they dont.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> =
c. charge
them a lot of money extra for all the hassle you have to endure so =
that
one group in a million can =
have pitch
set 2 cycles per second higher. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> =
I'm
sorry, but I have little tolerance for this coddling of artists who =
mistake
pitch </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> =
for brilliance or timbre. We as tuners need =
to
educate them and insist on a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> =
standard or else much much compensation for our
trouble. I had a group </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> =
from Germany come to my school - I think they =
wanted 443
believe it or not, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> =
and I broke the F# string above the =
bass/tenor break
for my troubles. Yes. it </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> =
does affect even a nine-foot concert =
grand.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> =
steve
kabat</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>