<HTML>In a message dated 2/18/02 5:09:40 PM Central Standard Time, mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">If there are cracks and it appears a shim may not hold well, perhaps the thing to consider is a plug and drill for the original size pin. Not really very difficult to do at all and very long lasting. Terry Farrell </BLOCKQUOTE> Terry Plugs are good if the plate has been removed.  The repair we are talking about is with the plate still in the piano. Even if there is a plate bushing, the diameter of the plug will not be big enough to then also drill a hole for the tuning pin, (unless you first drill out the plate and that will be even more work, and is not warranted for this kind of repair.) Wim</HTML>