<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Mike and all,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Twasn't easy but very doable with = practice, <G> , even for a deaf tuner.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ifin I could remember the procedure to = change the sign off I would. Any help out there post me .</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mjmccoy@usa.com href="mailto:mjmccoy@usa.com">Mike = McCoy</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 02, 2004 = 10:05 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: thumb protection = when re-pinning</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=582100117-02042004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Hi All,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=582100117-02042004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=582100117-02042004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2> I was waiting for Joe Goss to reply on the list so I = could point out his new signature, but he didn't change the old one! Joe took his Technical Exam at our Mid-Atlantic Regional Convention = (MARC) last week and is a NEW RPT! He was so dedicated he even closed his booth = for a while to concentrate on the exam.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=582100117-02042004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=582100117-02042004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Mike McCoy</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=582100117-02042004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Chapters 170 & 190</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=582100117-02042004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2>Langhorne, Pa.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=582100117-02042004><FONT face=Arial = color=#0000ff size=2><A = href="mailto:mjmccoy@usa.com">mailto:mjmccoy@usa.com</A></FONT></SPAN><= /DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Joe And Penny Goss<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 02, 2004 10:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: thumb protection when re-pinning<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave, Those ends need to be blunted = so that the reamer can go through the center of the felt = better.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A = href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:Piannaman@aol.com">Piannaman@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 02, = 2004 8:45 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: thumb = protection when re-pinning</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2 = PTSIZE="10">Dave, <BR><BR>I find a flat, smooth hard surface, such as the side of my = pinning tool.  I lay it on the keybed(or something else flat and = close by) and gently push the pin up into the birdseye.  Feeling the = amount of pressure you have to apply to the piece to get the pin through(or = not) can tell you how good the fit is.   I always push directly = over the pin to avoid any kind of unsupported stress on the part.  I occasionally get a pin jabbing in the end of my thumb, but not = often. <BR><BR>I also use the Mannino broaches.  They are one of the = best tools I've purchased based on money spent vs. money earned. =  The ends are REALLY sharp.  DAMHIK. <BR><BR>Dave Stahl <BR><BR>In a = message dated 4/2/04 4:21:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, = jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff = 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"><BR>I use the Mannino broaches themselves to = determine the fit in the birdseye. <BR>They have handles and the size marked = on them. <BR>Regards, <BR>John M. Ross <BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada <BR>jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca <BR>----- Original Message ----- = <BR>From: "Dave Nereson" <davner@kaosol.net> <BR>To: <pianotech@ptg.org> <BR>Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:56 = AM <BR>Subject: thumb protection when re-pinning <BR><BR><BR>>     When re-pinning more than, say, twenty = action parts, my right thumb <BR>> really gets poked, cut, and = chewed-up from repeatedly trying the pin in <BR>the <BR>> birdseye of = each part being re-pinned to see if it's tight enough, then <BR>> = pushing it into both bushings on the flange, individually, to see if they = <BR>> need reaming, burnishing, or re-bushing, then after reaming, = trying the <BR>pin <BR>> in the bushings again, maybe making another = touch-up operation, then <BR>trying <BR>> the pin in the bushings = again, then pushing the pin through one bushing <BR>into <BR>> the = birdseye, and, finally, using the plunger-type re-pinning tool only <BR>for = <BR>> the final push through the birdseye.  That's just one = flange.  After a <BR>> couple dozen, my thumb is raw meat, as = though I took a rasp to it. <BR>>     I've tried = using a thimble, but you have to keep taking it off to try <BR>> the = pin in the bushing or to pick up a fine tool like a tiny reamer, = <BR>> tweezers, or center-pin, then put it back on to push the pin = through.  And <BR>> with it on, you don't have the sensitivity or = control for trying the fit <BR>of <BR>> the pin in the bushing. =  Nor do you with pliers.  Maybe some custom-made <BR>> leather = "thumb boot" through which a center-pin will NOT poke would work, = <BR>> but it would probably wear through quickly.  I need a bionic = thumb! <BR>>     Gang replacement is different, = where you have all new flanges and you <BR>> can chuck a roughened = center pin in a drill and use that for the reamer, <BR>> then just = push all the same size pins through with the pinning tool.  But = <BR>> that's not the case with most actions I work on. <BR>>     --David Nereson, RPT = <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></= FONT></BODY></HTML>