<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" = http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:caccola@net1plus.com" = title=caccola@net1plus.com>Clark</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title=pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 21, 1999 = 5:11 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Was V-Pro, now = CASTING plates</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><TT>Del,</TT><TT></TT> <P><TT>Fine Woodworking did a small feature on pattern-makers, citing = them as a highly developed combination of woodworking and sculpture, using = either sugar pine or mahogany for materials. I take it that this would be the = case for piano plates as well so things haven't changed much since = Wolfenden's time.</TT><TT></TT> <P><FONT color=#800000 size=2>No, not much.</FONT> <P><TT>How does this translate to the prices you cited - designers' = fees added to pattern-makers' fees, plus testing the forms in sand, </TT> <P><FONT color=#800000 face="Lucida Sans"><TT><FONT face="Lucida = Sans">You would have to ask the foundry about how the prices break down.  Designers' fee would not be included.  They would expect you to = show up with a complete design, including full </FONT>size shrink <FONT face="Lucida Sans">drawings -- at the least -- including full = cross-sections, drilling details -- these days, that means x-y coordinates -- and any = other information about the design that they may require.</FONT></TT></FONT> <P><FONT color=#800000 face="Lucida Sans"><TT></TT></FONT>  <P><TT>and would it be possible to con Kelley or another foundry into = letting someone do this by themselves with some guidance just for 1-3 plates? = </TT> <P><FONT color=#800000><FONT face="Lucida Sans"><TT><FONT face="Lucida Sans">Sure, for $10,000 to $30,000, plus the set-up = costs.  Which would probably run you </FONT>about as much as <FONT face="Lucida Sans">the full order would = anyway.</FONT></TT></FONT></FONT> <P><FONT size=2>DelDelwin D Fandrich<BR>Piano Designer & Builder<BR>Hoquiam, Washington  USA<BR>E.mail:  <A = href="mailto:pianobuilders@olynet.com">pianobuilders@olynet.com</A><BR>= Web Site:  <A = href="http://pianobuilders.olynet.com/">http://pianobuilders.olynet.com= /</A></FONT> <P> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>