<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=410143516-27072004><FONT = face=Arial>Terry,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=410143516-27072004><FONT face=Arial>The Fandrich = & Sons vertical which is made by Klima in the Czech Rep. has a blue plate and = looks pretty slick.  Of course, he calls it his Blue Plate Special.!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=410143516-27072004><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=410143516-27072004><FONT = face=Arial>jeannie</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <P><FONT size=2>Jeannie Grassi, RPT<BR>Associate Editor, Piano = Technicians Journal<BR><A href="mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net">mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net</A><= /FONT> </P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On = Behalf Of </B>Farrell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:52 = AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Odd Agraffe Size<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Entire set, yes. Sounds like you = might have a good suggestion for just milling down a 1/4" shank to the correct size = - the threads are indeed the same. However, your point about a process = getting old fast is well taken. I think as a first step I will evaluate reconditioning the originals - they've been well protected with a = heavy coat of gold paint - and see how they come out.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And now, for something completely different......</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any comments on the concept of a = candy-apple-red plate with brass appointments - maybe on an ebony grand?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=sarah@graphic-fusion.com href="mailto:sarah@graphic-fusion.com">Sarah Fox</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 27, 2004 = 11:27 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Odd Agraffe = Size</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Terry,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You're doing the entire set?  = Drilling and tapping blind holes in cast iron is REALLY going to get old = fast.  7/32 and 1/4 are too close in size for you to do this if the thread = pitch is not identical between the two sizes!  If the pitches are different, you will end up with really awful threads, and you = will likely break off the tap in one of the holes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you can find a die of this = mystery size, and if the thread pitch is the same as with the 1/4", you = could probably reduce the 1/4" threading to the right size.  (Brass = is pretty easy to cut.)  This approach is going to get really old, too, = but at least you don't risk any more than an agraffe from a jammed or = broken tool.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>~or~</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is it possible to get some agraffe manufacturing company to mill you a set of custom ones?  You'll = pay a bit of money for them, but I bet it would be well worth = it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peace,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarah</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 27, = 2004 10:08 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Odd Agraffe = Size</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I wish to replace a set of = agraffes on an 1890s Knabe grand. It appears the thread diameter is slightly = larger than a standard 7/32" agraffe. I suppost others have run across this = odd thread size? If so, any solutions? Are replacements available anywhere? = Drill and tap for 1/4"?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A = href="http://www.farrellpiano.com">www.farrellpiano.com</A></FONT></DIV= ></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>