<html> <body> Dave, <x-tab>        </x-tab>Re-reading your original post, which you were kind enough to copy in this reply to mine, I see that this piano is a grand. Before stringing did you polish the capo d' astro bar? I certainly hope so. If not you could try letting down the tension a wee bit and sliding the new strings from side to side in an effort to lessen the effect of the grooves that were worn into the underside of the bar from the old strings. If the problem is in the agraffe section then you could try similar action or even replace a few agraffes and re-string that part to see if the problem goes away. If you sure that the problem is not at the bridge end this is the only contact area left to look at. You could also try muting off the waste end of the strings on both sides before attempting a new agraffe or two. Hope this helps. Greg Newell At 12:03 AM 6/10/2003, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Greg= , I am not sure of very much.  What do you suggest?   Dave Smith SW FL <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net">Greg Newell</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</a> <dd>Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:52 PM <dd>Subject: Re: False Beats in high treble after stringing <dd>Dave, <dd><x-tab>        </x-tab>Are you= sure that the false beats are coming from the bridge end o the= string? <dd>Greg Newell <dd>At 09:09 PM 6/9/2003, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> <dd>Just finished stringing my Wing and Sons= upright piano project and have quite a few false beats in the last two= octaves of treble in single strings.  My first restringing= project.  Phil Bondi suggested that I ask on-list for advice. = The treble bridge seemed (to me anyway) to be in pretty good shape. = About 1/3 of the bridge pins were loose and I had removed and replaced= after putting epoxy on the ends of the pins.  Also a little epoxy= whereever there appeared to be any hints of small cracks near the= pins.    Great results, except in certain strings of the= high treble. Other than there, the piano sounds great.   I don't= see anything different about these strings or the bridge from other= strings, but I think I need to fix if possible.  For example, B6= center string has a beat of about 2 bps.  Not as loud as a real beat= between two strings, but still THERE.   Some higher strings beat= faster. <dd>  <dd>I have experimented with seating the= strings with my copper rod, at each bridge pin.  Also tried tapping= each bridge pin in a small bit.  Doesnt seem to help, except in= certain strings.  I did lightly sand and buff the v-bar before= restringing, and think I have the right adjustment on the pressure= bar.  I've been reading the archives and the PTG CD articles re false= beats, but the number of "hits" for this search term is= overwhelming. <dd>  <dd>Can anyone offer me advice on what to do= next to reduce the false beats, short of unstringing and recapping bridge,= etc?  I would appreciate your help! <dd>  <dd>Frustrated in Florida, <dd>  <dd>Dave Smith <dd>SW FL <dd>--- <dd>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<a href="http://www.grisoft.com/"= eudora="autourl">http://www.grisoft.com</a>). <dd>Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date:= 5/29/2003</blockquote> <dd>Greg Newell <dd>Greg's piano Forté <dd><a href="mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net"= eudora="autourl">mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net</a> <hr> <dd>--- <dd>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<a href="http://www.grisoft.com/"= eudora="autourl">http://www.grisoft.com</a>). <dd>Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 5/29/2003 <hr> <dd>_______________________________________________ <dd>pianotech list info: <a= href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"= eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> <br= > </dl> --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<a href="http://www.grisoft.com/"= eudora="autourl">http://www.grisoft.com</a>). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date:= 5/29/2003</blockquote> <x-sigsep></x-sigsep> Greg Newell Greg's piano Forté <a href="mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net"= eudora="autourl">mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net</a></body> </html>