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<DIV>Norma,</DIV>
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<DIV>Keep at it. It takes many pianos before you feel adept at aural
tuning. I guarantee you, though, that you will eventually like it, and=
maybe even use it as your primary method. Many of us on this list have=
done both, and continue to do both. </DIV>
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<DIV>The more tools you have in the toolkit, the more situations you'll feel=
comfortable in.</DIV>
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<DIV>Practice, practice, practice, and then practice. If there
is a store with a rental fleet that you can work on, leave your ETD at
home, take your fork, and go for it. Bring Potter and/or Reblitz along=
,
use the recommended sequences, and do it till you're blue in =
the
ears.</DIV>
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<DIV>Many more experienced techs think that beginners should spend hundreds =
of
hours tuning BEFORE using an ETD. I think that an ETD can be a valuabl=
e
tutor, if used correctly. But if one becomes overly reliant on the ETD=
, it
can backfire, as you found out. </DIV>
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<DIV>Just as meteorologists often use radar in lieu of their most obvious an=
d
reliable instruments--windows and eyes--tuners sometimes forget to use
theirs--the ears!</DIV>
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<DIV>Good luck. If you have limited patience, as you've said, this is =
a
good way to learn that, as well.</DIV>
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<DIV>Dave Stahl</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/2/2005 7:12:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
normajneufeld@shaw.ca writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello List,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have about 1 year of experience in this=
job
(including my study time!) and things are going very well. I quit my=
full time job a few months ago, got a part time and fill the rest wit=
h
piano work. I'm getting lots of referrals and everyone seems
pleased with my work. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So far so good.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I started studying this art I bought=
a high
end ETD and concentrated on my technique and other things like repairs,
regulating and voicing, thinking that the aural stuff will come later.&nbs=
p; I
of course always listen to my unisons, octaves and other aural checks, but=
have yet to set a temperament. Late this afternoon I was h=
alf
way through a pitch raise on a Yamaha at a school and my ETD kind of
crashed. I panicked. There was no one around to reschedule (no=
t to
mention they've already paid me for this tuning and the one I'm doing
tomorrow, so it would look really bad if I just left), I couldn't find my
mentor, (lost your cell again RJ?), I tried everything I could think of to=
fix
the ETD. Luckily I got ahold of another tech in the city that uses t=
he
same one and he was able to help me. Crisis averted. I have be=
en
meaning to learn to tune aurally but I guess it was put on the back burner=
because I've been busy and my business has been growing nicely. Now =
I
realize that I must learn, and soon. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If any one has any advice on this I'd sur=
e
appreciate it. (I have the Randy Potter course but I'd like other
options and opinions.) Where do I start? Tune with =
3rds
and 6ths and check with 4ths and 5ths or the other way around?
Recommeded sequence? Any other tips? I think I need some
help.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks very much,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Norma Neufeld</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sasktoon, SK</FONT></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQU=
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