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<DIV><FONT size=2>I find it hard to believe that David Kirkland never =
heard of
this problem before (not that I don't believe you). Permafree 2 =
has had
problems for years with tight centers. The problem often manifests =
itself
in the damper flanges as well. The traditional Steinway fix has =
been to
use methanol. But it can be unpredictable and the centers can =
become too
loose. Alcohol and water will work to ease the bushings, but don't =
use
heat. Apply and let dry overnight. The pinning is not likely =
to be
even and after treating the centers it would be wise (though possibly =
not
covered by the warranty) to check the flange pinning and repin as
necessary. Unfortunately, Steinway prepping prior to sale is hit =
or miss
as it depends on the motivation of the dealer. Steinway's are not =
well
prepped out of the factory and a thorough going over needs to be done on =
all of
them. On a Steinway out of the factory I would figure 12-15 hours
including regulation and voicing to get the piano ready. If they =
haven't
done that at the dealer, then you shouldn't be surprised to have to put =
in some
time. In answer to your questions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>1. Protek will lubricate until it =
evaporates.
Then, if the centers are too tight, it will again become evident. =
Protek
will have no effect on sizing overtight bushings.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2. Alcohol/water will be effective but
unpredictable. Don't use heat and be prepared to check and repin =
if
necessary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>3. Tight centers on new Steinways are
common.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>4. If there is graphite in the spring slots =
(the
underside of the balancier where the rep springs slides) I wouldn't =
worry about
it. That area is usually lubricated with something similar. =
The top
of the balancier, on the other hand, should have no black stuff. =
Out of
the factory, the lubricant that appears on the top of the balancier is =
greenish
in color and is quite dry.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>David Love </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tomtuner@attbi.com href="mailto:tomtuner@attbi.com">Tom =
Driscoll</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> October 20, 2002 9:52 =
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> New Steinway -Tight =
action
centers</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">List,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> =
I’m servicing a Steinway M. “Sapelle “Veneer. Very pretty. This =
piano is two
years old and my client was complaining about playability. Lettoff and =
drop
was all over the place, tight balance rail holes, jacks needing =
alignment to
knuckles. All this corrected with the usual procedures, including =
Mclube on
key pins, Teflon powder on knuckles. Also noticed what looked like =
Graphite
grease in the balancier (rep-lever)spring seats. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> =
I found the hammer shank action centers to be very tight. Two- Three =
swings
only. I had no luck with protek on a sample.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> =
I consulted with </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Steinway</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">N.Y.</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> and =
spoke with David
Kirkland in Tech services. He was very supportive but had never heard =
of this
problem before. He mentioned that these centers were treated with =
liquid
Teflon and shouldn’t be tight---“ permafree two” I think he =
called them. When
I mentioned protek David suggested that it generally is a short term =
fix and
suggested alcohol –water treatment to resize the =
bushings</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> =
So--- My questions trusted colleagues:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> =
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">1.<FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If treated with liquid =
Teflon at
the factory, why would Protek CPL (Teflon) be short-term in the
field?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">2.<FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Will the alc-water =
treatment be
effective on a center so treated?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">3.<FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Have you seen tight =
centers on
other new Steinways?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=Arial =
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.75in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">4.<FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Could that black stuff =
on the reps
really be graphite and is it factory applied?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial =
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As I mentioned the =
gentleman was
supportive and authorized the aforementioned warranty service, but I =
think I
might have to ream and repin at least a portion of =
these.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: =
0.5in"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Opinions?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial =
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> =
Tom Driscoll RPT</SPAN></FONT></P>
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