<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" = http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2> <DIV><FONT size=2>Jon,</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Duo Arts in Grands are much alike.  It did save = a lot of time just taking the left block, and brackets holding the spoolbox and = motor and control levers loose and letting that all set on the keyframe as it was = pulled out.  Only had to take the handles off the the controls in front of = the keyboard on this George Steck VR Grand.  Plus the three blocks = attached to the bottom of the keyframe after removing the lyre and one pnumatic = mounted just below the one block.  Took my wife, Pat, and I about an hour on = each the disassembly and assembly.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I was referred to this instrument after a tech that = tunes and does minor repairs recommended me to this instrument.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It play OK before I started on it and played better after I = finished.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Ken Gerler</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>---- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net" = title=jonpage@mediaone.net>Jon Page</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title=pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 14, 2000 = 8:04 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: S&S = Duo-Art</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3>Ric makes a good point. if you = disconnect tubes which are brittle, they<BR>will break. If they are stuck and conformed = to the fitting, they may not seal<BR>well when replaced.<BR><BR>They will = claim it played perfectly the last time they played it (5 to 10 years = ago)<BR>but now that you took it apart, it does not work as well, What did YOU do to it???<BR>They are easy to work on IF you know what you are doing (have = a knowledge<BR>of player workings), a Nightmare if you = don't.<BR><BR>Have them play it, point out that it may require a player tech to attend to = the<BR>leaks which may develop.<BR><BR>This could be your baptism by fire. <BR><BR>CYA,<BR><BR>Jon Page<BR><BR>At 08:57 PM 02/13/2000 -0600, you wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>----------<BR>>> From: Robert A. = Anderson <fndango@azstarnet.com><BR>>> To: = pianotech@ptg.org<BR>>> Subject: S&S Duo-Art<BR>>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 = 6:35 PM<BR>>> <BR>>> I have a new customer with a Duo-Art. I = would like to get the<BR>>action out<BR>>> for some basic = servicing.<BR>>> I'd appreciate knowing about any pitfalls waiting for me.<BR>>> <BR>>> Thanks,<BR>>> <BR>>> Bob Anderson<BR>>> = Tucson, AZ<BR>><BR>>You will need a Duo-Art specialist to assist you.   The major<BR>>pitfall is that the customer may = claim it does not play the same as<BR>>when you "started removing things". = The only servicing you can or<BR>>should do to this piano is tune it.  = If you don't know how to<BR>>operate one I would suggest you have the = client "play it" for you<BR>>before you do anything including = tuning.   That way if it is not<BR>>functioning right, (but how would you know?) = at least the client<BR>>won't blame you afterwards.    I am = not suggesting player piano<BR>>owners are waiting for hapless piano tuners.  I am suggesting that<BR>>when removing a player = action, if anything is weak and ready<BR>>to"break" it will when you try = to.  <BR>><X-TAB>       </X-TAB>I am = a player piano specialist, but not for Duo-Arts.  I would ask<BR>>the = client who services their unit, and suggest that tech be the<BR>>one to = remove it so  you can service what ever  player tech = can't<BR>>do.  If they have not had a reproducer specialist look at their<BR>>playing = mechanism or maintain it,  it may be old and falling = apart,<BR>>and you will be glad not to make matters worse.  <X-TAB>      </X-TAB>In Tuscon, there<BR>>should be members of  AMICA  (automatic musical = instrument<BR>>collecters association) who can recommend the = specialist you will<BR>>need to remove the player action, and more importantly put = it back<BR>>in with all the tubes in the right places.   ---ric.<BR>> </FONT><BR> <DIV>Jon Page,   piano technician</DIV> <DIV>Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass.</DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net" = EUDORA="AUTOURL">mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net</A></DIV>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ </BLOCKQUOTE>i+</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net" = title=jonpage@mediaone.net>Jon Page</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title=pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 14, 2000 = 8:04 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: S&S = Duo-Art</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3>Ric makes a good point. if you = disconnect tubes which are brittle, they<BR>will break. If they are stuck and conformed = to the fitting, they may not seal<BR>well when replaced.<BR><BR>They will = claim it played perfectly the last time they played it (5 to 10 years = ago)<BR>but now that you took it apart, it does not work as well, What did YOU do to it???<BR>They are easy to work on IF you know what you are doing (have = a knowledge<BR>of player workings), a Nightmare if you = don't.<BR><BR>Have them play it, point out that it may require a player tech to attend to = the<BR>leaks which may develop.<BR><BR>This could be your baptism by fire. <BR><BR>CYA,<BR><BR>Jon Page<BR><BR>At 08:57 PM 02/13/2000 -0600, you wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>----------<BR>>> From: Robert A. = Anderson <fndango@azstarnet.com><BR>>> To: = pianotech@ptg.org<BR>>> Subject: S&S Duo-Art<BR>>> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 = 6:35 PM<BR>>> <BR>>> I have a new customer with a Duo-Art. I = would like to get the<BR>>action out<BR>>> for some basic = servicing.<BR>>> I'd appreciate knowing about any pitfalls waiting for me.<BR>>> <BR>>> Thanks,<BR>>> <BR>>> Bob Anderson<BR>>> = Tucson, AZ<BR>><BR>>You will need a Duo-Art specialist to assist you.   The major<BR>>pitfall is that the customer may = claim it does not play the same as<BR>>when you "started removing things". = The only servicing you can or<BR>>should do to this piano is tune it.  = If you don't know how to<BR>>operate one I would suggest you have the = client "play it" for you<BR>>before you do anything including = tuning.   That way if it is not<BR>>functioning right, (but how would you know?) = at least the client<BR>>won't blame you afterwards.    I am = not suggesting player piano<BR>>owners are waiting for hapless piano tuners.  I am suggesting that<BR>>when removing a player = action, if anything is weak and ready<BR>>to"break" it will when you try = to.  <BR>><X-TAB>       </X-TAB>I am = a player piano specialist, but not for Duo-Arts.  I would ask<BR>>the = client who services their unit, and suggest that tech be the<BR>>one to = remove it so  you can service what ever  player tech = can't<BR>>do.  If they have not had a reproducer specialist look at their<BR>>playing = mechanism or maintain it,  it may be old and falling = apart,<BR>>and you will be glad not to make matters worse.  <X-TAB>      </X-TAB>In Tuscon, there<BR>>should be members of  AMICA  (automatic musical = instrument<BR>>collecters association) who can recommend the = specialist you will<BR>>need to remove the player action, and more importantly put = it back<BR>>in with all the tubes in the right places.   ---ric.<BR>> </FONT><BR> <DIV>Jon Page,   piano technician</DIV> <DIV>Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass.</DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net" = EUDORA="AUTOURL">mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net</A></DIV>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>