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<DIV><SPAN class=843503514-24032005><FONT face=Arial>At the =
California
Conference, I attended a grand piano maintenance class sponsored and run =
by
Steinway techs. I was surprised when they made a specific point of =
telling us
that a piano under tension does not have to exhibit any crown, yet still =
sound
and work just fine. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=843503514-24032005><FONT =
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=843503514-24032005><FONT face=Arial>This wasn't in =
response to
any questions, it was a topic on their agenda!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=843503514-24032005><FONT =
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=843503514-24032005><FONT face=Arial>They also said =
that it
might explain why some pianos are so reactive to seasonal changes while =
others,
e.g. Acrosonic, tend to be more stable.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=843503514-24032005><FONT =
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=843503514-24032005><FONT face=Arial>Hmmmm
....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alan R. =
Barnard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Salem, MO</FONT></DIV>
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align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On =
Behalf Of
</B>Terry<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:01 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Steinway with reverse
crown<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I changed =
the
name of the subject line because a Steinway with reverse =
crown has
nothing to do with a subject line “New Baldwin” =
Please follow questions
interspersed below. ---ric </SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I had a new Steinway =
with the
exact same circumstances (full quarter-inch reverse crown). Stenway =
wouldn't
do anything because their opinion was that there was nothing wrong =
with the
piano.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Terry
Farrell</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">How =
did you
determine this? </SPAN></FONT></P>
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navy"><FONT
color=#800000>What? The reverse crown, or the Steinway opinion? =
Okay, okay,
I simply stretched a string tight across the back of the =
soundboard until
it touched in the center (or there abouts) of the panel and =
observed that
the ends were a good (or bad) quarter-inch off
the panel. </FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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navy"><FONT
color=#800000> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">The =
condition you
describe, it seems would tend to pull the strings up off the =
bridge pins
or be pulling the pins out of the bridge.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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navy"><FONT
color=#800000>No, it wouldn't do that at all. In my original post I =
stated
that there was plenty of downbearing. It would appear that the board =
was
reversed-crowned prior to bridge installation. =
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Was =
this across
the whole bridge? </SPAN></FONT></P>
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navy"><FONT
color=#800000>Don't remember - it was before I got into piano =
technology. I
doubt I measured between all ribs. But a reverse crown between any =
ribs
clearly suggests a real mess.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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navy">What model?
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navy"><FONT
color=#800000>As stated in original post, 1098 - 46"
studio.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">How =
new?
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
navy"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><FONT color=#800000>As stated =
in original
post, new, new, new, only weeks old (at least from original
purchase) when measurements made.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times =
New Roman"
color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Was =
it
sold? </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times =
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
navy"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><FONT color=#800000>As stated =
in original
post, I bought it - waddaya mean?</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">How =
was the bass
bearing. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
navy"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><FONT color=#800000>Don't =
know for sure -
my recollection is not clear on that - but I remember downbearing in =
general
was okay.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Do =
you mean ¼
reverse bearing? </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times =
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
navy"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><FONT color=#800000>As stated =
in original
post, downbearing was fine - normal. What would 1/4 reverse bearing
be?</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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New Roman"
color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Did =
SnS have a
tech of their own evaluate the piano after =
you? </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times =
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
navy"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><FONT color=#800000>Yes. Even =
John Patton
- I think he was the head of S&S concert techs (or something like
that).</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times =
New Roman"
color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Do =
you mean if
you loosened the string and took it off the bridge pins then pulled it =
back
up, the bridge would be ¼ inch below the level of the
string?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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New Roman"
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times =
New Roman"
color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
navy"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><FONT color=#800000>NO! The =
downbearing
was fine. It would appear that the board was reversed-crowned prior to =
bridge
installation (most likely explanation). =
</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times =
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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color=navy size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">If =
so I would
like to come and take pictures. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">---ric
</SPAN></FONT></P>
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navy"><FONT
color=#800000>Well, you probably could - a couple months ago I =
saw the
same old piano still for sale at the local Steinway dealer - I think =
they were
asking $18K for it! You'd have to talk to them about the photo shoot =
though.
Somehow I suspect they might not be too interested in
it.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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navy"><FONT
color=#800000>Oh, BTW, I have at least a dozen 8 x 10 color glossy =
photos with
circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one that fairly =
clearly
detail the troubled saga of this piano.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=#800000>Terry Farrell</FONT> =
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