<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> No Terry... its because tastes differ. The problem with this whole reasoning of Rons is that he chooses to use the word "wrong" in a situation that is clearly far too subjective to deal in right and wrongs.. good and bads. The definition he uses of for "good sound" simply does not apply. If it did... then there is no way on this earth Steinway could possibly have survived. People buy them not because they are stupid, or duped, or are simply following tradition, or whatever....they buy them because they like them. And who the heck are we to tell them their ears are screwy because they dont seem to react negatively to a slightly shorter sustain, or what ever quality you wish to assign. Certainly there is an element of marketing, certainly they play their position. Just as everyone else does. Sorry tho... none of this can explain their dominating place in the market over so long time. Its just plain absurd to claim it does. They are where they are because they make that piano which by far and away... to THEE DEGREE, clasical artist prefer most. Until you can explain that satisfactorilly... the notion that Steinway makes self destruct soundboard is going to remain just so much nothing to do about blowing around in the wind. Sorry... but thats reality. Convince the world... and you win. So far... its still Steinway 95, the rest of the world 5. Pretty overwhelming. RicB Farrell wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style> That's because those pianos are likely prepped properly. Many are not. Steinways don't have a killer octave if they are voiced properly. I went to a lecture by a Steinway dealer tech that explained all that clearly. He instructed that new Steinway pianos will commonly have an area in the fifth or sixth octave that is weak compared to the rest of the piano. You need to take the tonal characteristics of that weak area and voice the rest of the piano down to match. That is how you voice a new Steinway. That makes the killer octave go away - er, ahhh, ummmm, I mean that makes for a properly voiced new piano. Problem solved. No kidding. True Story. Terry Farrell ----- Original Message -----From: "Richard Brekne" <<a href="mailto:Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no">Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no</a>>To: "Pianotech" <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>>Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:04 AMSubject: Re: compression ridges in New Baldwin grand > Yeah.. I knew this one was comming... something wrong with our hearing... grin.... > Well... squirm as you may... the fact remains that 95 % of the worlds concert > venues have that same hearing problem... as well as the vast majority of concert > pianists. You simply cannot escape the fact that the Steinway reputation, and the > alledged self destruct soundboard theory... are at astounding odds with each > other. > > Like I said... it just does not wash. > > RicB > > Ron Nossaman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Those are your numbers and your claims of significant tonal problems, not > > >mine, > > >and evidently not those of all those folks out there happy with their > > >Steinways. > > > > > >-- > > >Richard Brekne > > > > This is true. For those who don't hear anything wrong, there's no need for > > a fix and no way to discuss the possibility that one might be in order. > > > > This strikes me as the bottom line. > > > > Ron N > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> > > -- > Richard Brekne > RPT, N.P.T.F. > UiB, Bergen, Norway > <a href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</a> > <a href="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</a> > <a href="http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html">http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html</a> > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> ></blockquote> -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. UiB, Bergen, Norway <A HREF="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</A> <A HREF="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</A> <A HREF="http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html">http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html</A>  </html>