<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Dear Oops group, My purpose for starting this discussion was to cover procedures up to but not including the tuning of the piano, including any slick or sneaky procedures I could have used to get out of the hole caused by my error.  When I finish however many passes it takes to accomplish the pitch raise, then I am ready to start tuning.  I prefer at this point to have all strings of the piano either roughly on pitch or slightly sharp so I am not chasing the pitch from the under side when I am trying to tune.  If I find that situation then I do another pass in that section to correct the problem, but I would much rather get it right the first time if possible. Warren David Ilvedson wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE> I think the "dead-on" lasts about as long as it takes the tuner to close his kit or is out the door...;-[]  I don't even think about a stable tuning with a 100 cent change...too many things going ...I simply do the best I can and schedule the real tuning for 3 to 6 months. David I. <blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid">A 100 cent pitch raise "dead on" in 2 passes?  If you say so. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin</blockquote> </blockquote> -- Warren Fisher RPT fish@Communique.net 1422 Briarwood Dr. Slidell, LA 70458-3102  </html>