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Hi Dave, <br>
I would pull the capo sections a beat or so sharp to the
centre. Lift the strings You will find the tone will get
stronger and sustain better. After shaping and shoe shining
hammers, fit them to the strings. Re tune to A440. The string
lifting/leveling, and hammer fitting will have dropped the pitch back
into range with the centre section.<br><br>
This will have cut down on the leakage into the forward duplex. For the
worst 'zingers', move the strings around on the capo bar, it can
help to burnish off any cups in the bar. Lift again and re
tune.<br><br>
Now you are ready to start on the hammers. Renner Blues I
like to use a single long needle and go in very deep at 1-2 o'clock
range. aiming for the tip of the molding About 5 or 6
insertions per shoulder usually will do the trick.<br><br>
Very lightly needle the crowns, as needed to remove any impact
noise!!!!!<br><br>
Frequently I can lift strings, fit and shape hammers, and never take the
needles from the box.<br><br>
Treat the problems and not the symptoms.<br><br>
Regards Roger<br><br>
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At 10:21 PM 3/5/2004, you wrote:<br>
</font><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>Liszt,
<br><br>
I have a job coming up where I'll be working on a Seiler 180(5 10"
grand). I'll be at it all day, easing, lubing, regulating, tuning,
and voicing. These are really well-built German pianos, with Renner
blue hammers, and full Renner actions, etc., etc. <br><br>
I'm sure someone on this list has experience with these pianos.
I've worked on quite a few, but not to this extent. I've tuned
many, and done minor regulations on several, but have never voiced
one. I'm actually surprised that nobody has asked me to voice
because there are some really harsh overtones that emanate from the piano
above the treble break. I've muted some in the past by lacing felt
through the strings and wedging it under the capo bar, with some
success. The customer knows about this method, but would prefer it
voiced down, or so he says. <br><br>
My main concern in this whole deal is that I've seen the results of a
tech trying to "voice down" that section on a different
piano. The hammers are ruined. They look like pin cushions,
and sound like them too. <br><br>
Can anyone offer advice on the voicing of these instruments? M.
Orobeek?? Anyone?? <br><br>
I've got a call in to the Seiler rep. I'm certain he's heard this
complaint before. I'm curious what the company has to offer in
terms of a fix. <br><br>
Thanks in advance for any and all input, <br><br>
Dave Stahl</font><font face="arial" size=3> </font></blockquote></body>
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