<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 = rightMargin=7> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Sanderson (Pscale) Break Percent formula calculates the = top 10 bichords of an original Steinway L scale to be in the 55% to 67% of = Break Point range. In fact, from what I have been able to determine, the = Sanderson formula calculates Break Point at about 4% higher than = whatever formula Del is using.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Given that the tensile strength of today's wire is said to be = higher, I just interpret the Sanderson calculation with this in mind.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tremaine Parsons</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=fandrich@pianobuilders.com href="mailto:fandrich@pianobuilders.com">Delwin D Fandrich</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 25, 2005 = 5:59 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Arledge Bass = strings</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=3>What are you using to = calculate the percentage of breaking strength? If it is the formula presented by Al Sanderson and used by Tremaine Parsons, it is incorrect. = </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 = size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=3>The Model Ls I've = measured come to the high 50%/low 60% range. At least when compared to the real-world = tensile strength of the wire in use today.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 = size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 = size=3>Del</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A = href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Erwinspiano@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> June 25, 2005 5:34 = PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Arledge Bass strings<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2> <DIV><FONT size=3>   List</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>   Speaking of strings, I've had the = pleasure now of using  about 6 sets of the Arledge strings  & I = like them very much. I like the neatness of the  wraps etc. But as = much as this I find the tone color of the scaling a bit darker  = thru  out but I find it especially refreshing in the top of the bass scales = where typically many makers get a bit thin & whiny sounding which I = believe is a tension problem.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>    I haven't checked but I'd = guess at a bit heavier scaling being employed which, in my limited scaling = experience gives a darker tone with more power.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  IE the Old 1920's  stwy L scale in = the region of notes 20 - 26 were scaled toward the 70% of breaking strength = & they sounded awesome. When on occasion I have replaced sets where the = tension was reduced in this area the tone suffers greatly. ON having it = corrected the tone came back. I'm not finding this weakness in  the = Arledge strings at present.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  I'm interested in any ones feedback be it = objective or subjective.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>   Cheers</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  Dale Erwin</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  Oh & I like personal service, = southern hospitableness & a can do attitude.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3> !!!!!!!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" = PTSIZE="10">Erwins Pianos Restorations <BR>4721 Parker Rd.<BR>Modesto, Ca 95357<BR>209-577-8397<BR>Rebuilt Steinway , Mason &Hamlin = Sales<BR>www.Erwinspiano.com</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT= ></FONT></BODY></HTML>