<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE= ="Arial" LANG="0">Thanks again John.  Reminds me of a sloted (saw c= urf) 1/2" piece of plywood I have to remove backcheck wires using a vice gri= p.  Sure, I'll give that a try.<BR> Regards, Gordon Holley</FONT></HTML>