<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Zi, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tuned one of those Alcoa types = today!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Really not that bad.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I had tuned it 6 months earlier = for a store and while the bass was 5 cents low and the treble 3 to 5 cents high the = tuning came out quite well. The piano now resides in a church that has constant = temp control and is in a room away from the direct sun.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now the other Winter piano that I will = do work on, at another store is quite another story.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bass strings breaking in the middle due = to rodents and the hammers worn out, loose bridge pins as well as tuning pins. The = case looks like it has been in a war zone.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=diskladame@provide.net = href="mailto:diskladame@provide.net">Z! Reinhardt</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=mathstar@salemnet.com href="mailto:mathstar@salemnet.com">Alan R. Barnard</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 21, 2002 = 6:30 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Winter & Co. = .... Blahhh</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now try tuning one with an aluminum = plate.  Talk about instability ...!  But hey -- they were light enough = for ordinary people (as opposed to piano movers) to push around to their liking.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(I'll leave it to your collective = imaginations where some of these may have ended up after a good push.)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Z! Reinhardt  RPT<BR>Ann = Arbor  MI<BR><A = href="mailto:diskladame@provide.net">diskladame@provide.net</A></FONT><= /DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mathstar@salemnet.com = href="mailto:mathstar@salemnet.com">Alan R. Barnard</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 21, = 2002 8:06 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Winter & Co. = .... Blahhh</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Are all Winter & Co. pianos = mucho crappy or just the ones I tune? Wound bichords up to G#36 (5 notes on the = tenor bridge). Wild strings everywhere. Whiny trichords. Thumpy, wumpy = lowest octave. Unstable as all get-out for about 3 notes either side of the = tenor-treble break...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Seems like a lot of people, over = the years, went shopping for a piano but were tricked by the nice-looking furniture!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Of course, today's wasn't really a = completely fair example ... hadn't been tuned since 1985!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh, and another plug for Sanderson = Pitch Correction -- this sucker was all over the place from 12 to 80 cents = flat. Adjusted my percentages about every 6 to 12 notes. Ended up = reaaaaaaal close. It always amazes me how well it works!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alan Barnard</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Raisin' Cain (and pitch) in Salem, MO</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>