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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree with your post</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm also a Jim Coleman =
wannabe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But I also pitchraise in in whole =
steps, like you
suggested, moving the hammer in a row and putting pressaure (sp?) to the =
soundboard 9 times for each pitch raise. Very fun and =
clever.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That makes me a Bill Bremmer wannabe =
too.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why not buy Colemans Videos? =
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ola Andersson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bergen Norway</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"
title=pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 03, =
2001 9:23
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Tuning Time & =
Pitch
Raises</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>List, =
<BR><BR>I only
had time to read a little of this thread but I'd like to calm the =
<BR>fears of
those who think they just aren't tuning fast enough. Take your =
<BR>time,
do the job right and well. It takes a great deal of experience =
to
<BR>develop a really fast and sure technique, just as it does to be a =
really
fine <BR>and accomplished musician. <BR><BR>When visiting with Terry =
Peterson
in June, he asked me about how long I would <BR>spend for the usual =
tuning
fee. It may easily only take me 10-15 minutes to <BR>move =
through a
small vertical piano that is not far off pitch. To do the =
<BR>same
amount of work, it may take others up to 2 hours. I never feel
<BR>satisfied that just one pass is good enough, so I always do at =
least 2
passes <BR>which in most cases takes 30-45 minutes and I collect my =
fee.
<BR><BR>On the other hand, I cannot change the pitch of any piano =
which is
more than <BR>20 cents off with any less than 3 passes and have a =
good, stable
tuning <BR>result. The first pass takes more time because each =
pin takes
more cranking. <BR> The next two go more quickly. A full =
half step
pitch raise is a major <BR>undertaking. Don't think it is =
anything less
than that. It would take me at <BR>least 4 passes. I read =
about so
many people saying that it will take 2 <BR>passes, so they charge =
extra for a
1/2 step. DUH! <BR><BR>Such a drastic change would take me at =
least 90
minutes and is NOT POSSIBLE <BR>in just 2 passes, I don't care how =
fancy your
ETD is. <BR><BR>On the other hand, the "stunning" tuning that has been =
talked
about recently <BR>is a work of art for which no constraints of time =
can ever
apply. I've often <BR>heard people say how important it is to =
take new
FAC or other measurements <BR>each time then proceed to do the one =
pass,
calculated hit. Believe me, <BR>folks, whatever precision there =
is in
these measurements is *completely* <BR>negated by scale irregularities =
and the
amount by which the tuning doesn't <BR>really hold as it is foolishly =
expected
to do. <BR><BR>The time it takes is relevant to the circumstances and =
so is
the method. For <BR>the novice tuner, the best advice is to keep =
trying, keep
your mind on your <BR>work, eliminate wasted time between movements, =
don't
ever expect to really <BR>fine tune any piano by manipulating each pin =
only
once and you'll be doing <BR>the best you can. The speed will =
come with
practice and experience. <BR><BR>By the way, I learned my basic =
approach from
Jim Coleman and George <BR>Defebaugh. George is gone but if you =
value
the wisdom of experience, ask Jim <BR>Coleman about how long a small =
pitch
correction should take and whether any <BR>piano can really be =
properly tuned
with only one correction to each string. <BR>Jim often writes =
about
some of the finer points these days but I feel the <BR>time may be =
right for
him to talk about some of the most basic concepts for <BR>this List =
and for
the record. <BR><BR>Bill Bremmer RPT <BR>Madison, Wisconsin
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