<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=windows-1250"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT face=Arial>Wow ... it IS = hard to say things right and I missed the mark, too! I had taken no offense at your = post, mi amigo. In fact, I appreciated your reply, as always.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT face=Arial>Now the dilemma = is that I'm soon to take the RPT Technical Exam (I know, finally, at long last, what = kept ya?) which requires rebushing a grand hammer flange. No waiting = overnight allowed, </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT = face=Arial>I'm told</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT face=Arial>In fact, a = concern I have is that I will go to all the trouble to glue the felt in then push = out some of it out when I pin/ream/burnish the darn thing--and then be = out of time. So it may not be the best "shrink sized" or "soft felt" center in = the world, but I want something that will be adequate, set up fairly fast, = and HOLD. But no, I don't want to take a glue pot to the convention just to make = two little globs o' glue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT face=Arial>I'm thinkin' = Titebond or maybe PVC-E.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=671331123-15032005><FONT face=Arial>What have = others used in this kind of time-crunch repair? That's what I'd like to know.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alan R. = Barnard</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Salem, MO</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On = Behalf Of </B>Terry<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:00 = PM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Where's the action (cloth)?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You are welcome. I apologize - = sometimes I know my responses as a teeny little bit smart a$$y. You are correct - their = felt products are not on the web site. I simply called them. You can = order as many or as few as you wish. Only one size. If I recall correctly, they = are $2 per strip (but I could be WAY off with that).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I honestly don't know how to rush = drying the bushings. I've always just done it in my shop and had the luxury of = time. I'd be tempted to experiment with other glues like Titebond in the shop = first to make sure it didn't go too far into the felt (maybe use sparingly and = let air dry until tacky???).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have you used the Renner bushing felt = before? Be sure to use their training tool (to get the felt to go through = the flange easy. I pull my felt through the flange, one cut, thread a = bunch of flanges on a long center pin wire (or individual wires), and then = apply a 50/50 mix of water/alcohol and let dry overnight. Works great. = Depending on how much friction you are after controls what size wire you = use to for sizing. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tune4u@earthlink.net = href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">Alan</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 15, 2005 = 12:58 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Where's the = action (cloth)?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=484205217-15032005><FONT face=Arial>Well, = thanks Terry. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=484205217-15032005><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=484205217-15032005><FONT face=Arial>I had = checked out their website but if they post any prices or even list their felt products = on there, they sure have them hidden. I emailed them. Do you have to = call them to order, THEN find out the cost? If so, that would be very Steinway = of them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=484205217-15032005><FONT face=Arial>I guess for = field repairs, one could dab on a little Titebond.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alan R. = Barnard</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Salem, MO</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On = Behalf Of </B>Terry<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:40 = AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Where's the action (cloth)?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><FONT face=Arial><EM> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Alan R. Barnard asks:</EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV></EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><FONT face=Arial><EM>"Who = sells Renner cloth?"</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><EM></EM></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005>Ummmmmm......... Renner =  <A href="http://www.rennerusa.com">www.rennerusa.com</A> . I just = ordered some from them a week or so ago. I assume you are speaking of = action center bushing cloth (that's the pre-glued stuff)?</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><FONT face=Arial><EM></EM></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><FONT face=Arial><EM>"From = those who use it, please: Bill Spurlock says to let the pre-glued stuff = dry for "several hours." This would not seem to work if used for field = repairs or the RPT Technical ... thoughts?"</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><EM></EM></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005>Yup, takes a few hours - at = least. I just let it dry overnight. How well do you know your = client?</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005>Might need to use plain = cloth and hot hide glue - oops, there we go again, now we've got to heat hot = hide glue on-site - for one little action center bushing?</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005>Just might need to bring = part back to shop, fix and return at a later date. "Quality work can't be = rushed!" Check out some of the piano manufacturers web sites - I'm sure = you'll find some good sounding stuff there from their marketing departments....</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><EM></EM></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><EM><FONT face=Arial>"What = stock of sizes should one purchase, not for shop work but just the odd = field repair?"</FONT></EM></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><EM></EM></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005>I stock all of = their one size - that way I can always have the right size!</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005>Terry Farrell</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=312401907-15032005><FONT face=Arial><EM></EM></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM></EM></FONT> </DIV></FONT></DIV><BR> <P><FONT size=2>--<BR>No virus found in this incoming = message.<BR>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.<BR>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - = Release Date: 03/09/2005<BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P><FONT size=2>--<BR>No virus found in this outgoing = message.<BR>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.<BR>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - = Release Date: 03/09/2005<BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P><FONT size=2>--<BR>No virus found in this incoming = message.<BR>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.<BR>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - = Release Date: 03/09/2005<BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>--<BR> No virus found in this outgoing message.<BR> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.<BR> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: = 03/09/2005<BR> </FONT> </P>