<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; FONT: 10pt = verdana; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; = BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Gosh, Dale!  That's = interesting.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I've always thought that the more widely a = belief is held the more apt is to be false. Could that be true of crowned boards?  = If reverse crown sounds good, would you design and build me a reverse = crowned board that I could put in my style 2 S&S grand?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm only partly kidding.  Purposely putting = in a reverse crowned board is another one of the weird things I might try.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Regards</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Carl Meyer  Assoc. PTG<BR>Santa Clara, California<BR><A = href="mailto:cmpiano@home.com">cmpiano@home.com</A>  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=erwinpiano@msn.com href="mailto:erwinpiano@msn.com">DALE = ERWIN</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 18, 2001 = 1:17 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Hamlet Davis = bridge agraffes/ Reverse crown Steck</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Terry</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>   Quite sure as I've seen this reverse crown = design probably a dozen or so times of various makers.</DIV> <DIV> It is one of those things that is just too intentional and symmetrical to simply be a collapsed board. I have yet to run = across one that didn't sound more musical than most pianos ever dreamed of being. = Julius Bauer, Becker Bros. ,Steck and others I can't recall the names of = right now. The boards were also not split up from the tension instead of = compression as one might think.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>   Dale E. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: = black"><B>From:</B> Farrell</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 18, = 2001 9:02 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Hamlet Davis = bridge agraffes/ Reverse crown Steck</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>You say "that the board was a = reverse crowned board with a positive set downbearing". Do you know if this = configuration was the intent of the designer & manufacturer? Just curious. I = have seen new Steinways with this board/bridge configuration, but as far = as I know, it was a manufacturing anomaly.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=3>Terry Farrell</FONT> <SPAN id=__#Ath#SignaturePos__></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=erwinpiano@msn.com = href="mailto:erwinpiano@msn.com">DALE ERWIN</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 18, = 2001 9:48 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Hamlet Davis = bridge agraffes/ Reverse crown Steck</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Tom and list</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>    You know I have been following this thread = and it is interesting to me how many makers tried out this idea. I = rebuilt a George Steck 6 ft. grand last year with this arrangement. When I = first encountered the piano the sound was absolutely magic. The sustain = just floated for what seemed like forever . The more interesting thing = was that the board was a reverse crowned board with a positive set = downbearing. I mean bearing set pressing in the usual direction.</DIV> <DIV>   A bit more time consuming to string but what a = gem. I keep finding all kinds of sound board conditions and = configurations which aren't supposed to work that do and others that should that don't! </DIV> <DIV>  I have to figure that the weight of the Big =  Brass agraffes also contributed to the impedance properties of the board = probably a sustain enhancing dynamic.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>       Ain't life = interestin---Dale Erwin----- -----</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: = black"><B>From:</B> Tom Driscoll<B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 18, 2001 6:28 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> = pianotech@ptg.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Hallet Davis = bridge agraffes</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Enclosed photo of Hallet Davis Grand  = referenced by Phil Ford in recent<BR>discussion of bridge agraffes. Piano = was built in 1890's and bridge system<BR>is still in good = condition.   Photo courtesy of Moody Piano in Marlboro = Ma.<BR>    Tom = Driscoll<BR><BR><BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR>-----------------------------= -----------------------------------------------<BR>----<BR><BR><BR><BR><B= R></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>