<HTML>In a message dated 3/5/02 8:51:29 PM Central Standard Time, jonpage@attbi.com (Jon Page) writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The first chord, "WOW". He proceeded to rip through some music commenting on how open the music sounded. He tried the same piece on the A (ET). Although the A is a far better piano than the tired old L, the consensus was that the WT sounded better.  The violinist asked if I could tune the festival this summer in WT.  Can do. Comparing thirds between the WT and ET I think has made a few converts. Nothing like side by side comparison. I don't think I will give an option of WT over ET. Just do it.  What's the big deal with ET anyway</BLOCKQUOTE>? I'm so glad to read of these experiences.  More and more people seem to be having them.  You are not the first piano technician, Jon, who really didn't enjoy tuning all that much but as soon as the HT discovery was made, the interest is suddenly there as never before. I hope you'll go on to refine your idea of what makes the modern piano sound best for any type of music and also discover some stronger temperaments which may have more limited applications. I'll bet that the temperament you're using also has some of the same Equal Beating properties as my own idea does.  The way to refine your Bass tuning is to tune the octave first, then play the note which is a 6th above the lower note of the octave and the lower note of the octave together.  Now play the note which is a Major 3rd below that note which forms the 6th and the note which forms the 6th together.  Compare beating.  Adjust the lower note slightly sharp or flat until both the 3rd and the 6th beat exactly the same. This should still leave a good sounding octave, 4th and 5th.  You will be able to do this for at least half of the notes, those with the 5th which is tempered more than in ET.  You may be able to on other notes too.  When you find a combination which is too different to be resolved, simply concentrate on getting the best compromise between the 4th, 5th and octave.  You can do this refining all the way down to C2 and sometimes even lower. This will give the piano an incredibly harmonious and pleasant vibrato.  Yes, you'll have to use your ears but your program should get you close enough that most of it is correct anyway.  You'll be able to distinguish what can be refined if you take the time to listen carefully.  If you make an aural correction that doesn't work out, you can always return to the program's suggestion. You can make similar refinements in the upper octaves as well.  See the article in my website on "Tempered Octaves".  You should be able to hear exactly the same compromise as your SAT will reveal. Keep up the good work and discoveries. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin <A HREF="http://www.billbremmer.com/">Click here: -=w w w . b i l l b r e m m e r . c o m =-</A> </HTML>