<html> I have one of these and have managed to use it on some pianos, but not on others.  The reason being is that some pianos have the back posts in different spaces.  I bought one of these in the 70s and I had to take it to a machine shop and have them make the part that goes under the piano longer and a bit thicker.  I have not have trouble using it since I had this done.  Ed Guerra At 01:36 PM 9/8/99 -0700, you wrote: >List, > >I finally bit the bullet and bought a portable piano tilter from APSCO a >couple of months ago because I'm tired of the acrobatics I have to do in >my van when I take my larger one from Schaff to a job site.  Used it for >the first time last week, and it's great except that it comes with two >clamps which are supposed to be used to lock the tilter to the frame >posts. > >I tried every conceivable way that I could think of to use those clamps, >without success.  For the information of those who don't have one, the >clamps are 1/2" threaded steel rods about 8" long with a small plate >roughly 1" x 2" welded on one end in a plane perpendicular to the axis >of the rod.  A piece of angle iron of roughly the same size slides >loosely along the rod by means of a hole in one arm of the angle. >Finally, a large wing nut screws onto the free end of the rod. > >The clamp is clearly designed so that the welded plate gets braced on a >post while the angle iron fastens onto the tilter and the wing nut >tightens it in place.  Problem is I can't figure out any way to make the >angle iron fasten anywhere and tighten the nut.  I can of course bypass >the problem by not using the clamps, which is what I did on this job, >and use straps instead.  If there is a right way to use them, however, I >would be interested to know. > >It is almost impossible to respond to this unless you own one of these >things, because of all the dimensions of the parts and the way they fit >together (or don't).  Anybody got one and had to deal with this? > >Thanks. > >Paul S. Larudee, RPT >Richmond, CA </html>