<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Ric,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I never was taught to count beats = either by my teacher in 1981.  It was more, fast or slow or "the quality or = characteristic" of the intervals.  To top it off, I learned the F-F = temperament setting 4ths & 5ths and using 3rds, 6ths etc. as my = tests.  Gosh, should I include that I use a C fork?  (Had my = "A" there with me for the test.)   I have a little joke going with a well-respected tech about forming a C-Forks Anonymous group.  :-) </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi, my name is = Barbara.........</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=remoody@midstatesd.net = href="mailto:remoody@midstatesd.net">Richard Moody</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, August 22, 2004 = 11:06 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Hearing = beats</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">I = trained from aural tuners in the early 70's.    I was told, "this = third is too fast" or "this third is too slow" and this would be pointed out in = playing a succession of 3rds either contiguous, but mostly chromatic within = the temperament octave.    The first test of temperament was how = evenly  the 3rds progressed chromatically.   Then they went = after the 5ths.   Usually a 3rd that was off would immediately lead to = a horrid sounding 5th that my teacher would sound and then play it for emphasis in an impromptu beer hall = waltz.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004></SPAN><SPAN class=770593706-22082004>       <FONT face="MS Sans Serif">The progression of 3rds was sort of a catechism = in the way I was trained and how I was tested.  They (the 3rds) had to = progress evenly and smoothly.   I was not instructed in a specific = beat rate for a specific 3rd or the mnemonic of how to achieve = it.   Rather,  when I was told a 3rd was too slow or too fast , it was = easily discernible out of the pattern of the even progression of = 3rds.   So as I progressed the "progression"  became better and my = fault finding reached the level of my teachers  and thus I became a "journeyman" or "peer".  I  realized I could  = become as good or better through continual testing and resulting recognition and this continues today.  It is with wonder and awe = that I realize after 30 years there are still tuners who are 20 = years my senior and very much twenty years better than me and I still have = much more to learn.  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">    You always have to be = evaluated if you want to keep your edge which is necessary if you want to go to the top = or at least be recognized by "top" tuners as competent or capable at least = as their substitutes (as if they would ever allow such an opportunity to  happen,,,, but they do)   </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770593706-22082004><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">---ric    </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT> </DIV><FONT = face=Arial> <P><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">"The more extensive a man's knowledge = of what has been done, </FONT></P> <P><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">the greater will be his power of = knowing what to do."</FONT></P> <P>Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881); British politician.</P></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>