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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Robert,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I will be the different one =
perhaps.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If the piano is 25 cents or less flat =
average
pitch, usually it is a one pass pitch raise that takes me about 50 =
minutes
followed by touchup of either the bass or tenor 10 minutes tops =
depending on
what will make the piano sound good. If the piano is local 30 miles one =
way,
stickvillehere, an apointment for a month to do string seating of top =
treble and
fine tune. Further away seating and fine tune .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am aiming to be arround 0 to 3 cents =
sharp or
flat of 440, I would rather the sharp, as I find that just bumping the =
pin, in
most cases, with the hammer on the pin will settle the pitch to where it =
is very
stable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Due to string breakage posibilities, 30 =
and larger
to 100 cents takes me two raises, dont see much larger raises but every =
once in
a while the 170 raise is needed, but most of those are pianos that NEED =
condemed
due to other problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Every time I have tried the blind pitch =
raise idea
I have ended up being at that piano for hours <O:((((</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So being a very lazy =
person------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW I use a SATlll.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One idea for you, is to force yourself =
to not
fixate on the perfection of the unison in pitch raises, to develop your =
speed in
fine tuning. Do listen to what is going on but, join "move on . =
org"
<G></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A
href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI=
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tune4u@earthlink.net =
href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">Alan
Barnard</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 20, 2005 =
1:29
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Differences =
Between Pitch
Raise and Fine Tuning?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Whether you use an ETD or tune aural, you just do it fast
and, depending where the piano pitch is, you tune a little sharp =
or a
little flat. There are various fomulas for calculating pitch and ETDs =
have
built-in programs to do it. You DO tune every string but you DON'T =
spend a
long time doing it, trying to get every unison clean, etc.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>After awhile, you'll get where you can do it in about that much =
time.
Practice practice practice .... and DON'T linger on any string trying =
to get
it just right. Focus, concentrate, and MOVE. If you are a =
perfectionist this
will cure you or drive you over the edge!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Actually, I spend longer than that on most pitch corrections =
and
find that the fine tuning then takes less time for me. My choice. =
If the
move is maybe 20 cents or more, I'll do at least one fast pass, then a =
more
careful pass, then fine tune.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sounds like a lot of work BUT it is better for your sanity and =
produces a
better result than trying to fine tune any piano that is more than a =
few cents
off. And, depending on the situation, I definitely CHARGE for =
this extra
work. This--and other unknowns--is way I try to ALWAYS schedule pianos =
I am
seeing for the first time either last in the day or at some time when =
I can be
there longer.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hope it helps. Reblitz is great overview of the whole field but =
is pretty
skimpy for learning tuning. You need other sources and, hopefully, a =
GOOD
tunor who will mentor you or at least show you how it's done.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you are not in the guild and attending an active chapter's =
meetings,
REPENT.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Alan Barnard</DIV>
<DIV>Salem, MO</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Robert Finley
<RFINLEY@RCN.COM><BR>Sent: Aug 20, 2005 2:06 PM <BR>To: =
pianotech@ptg.org
<BR>Subject: Differences Between Pitch Raise and Fine Tuning?
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been reading the Reblitz book =
and have a
question about raising the pitch of a piano that has gone flat. On =
page 231 it
says a pitch raise is a fast rough tuning, and one shouldn't spend =
more than
about 20 minutes doing this. My question is what can you do in 20 =
minutes, and
how does this "rough tuning" differ from a regular/fine tuning? Do you =
set the
temperament, tune octaves up and down the piano, tune unisons, or =
what? If
that is so, I don't see how all that can be done in only 20 minutes. =
Thank you
for your help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robert =
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