<html> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> <style>  </style> <style> p.MsoNormal {margin-left:7.5pt;} </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue = style='margin-left:7.5pt; margin-top:3.75pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt;background-posit= ion-x: 0px;background-position-y:0px' scroll=yes ORGYPOS=0 X-FVER=3.0> <div class=Section1> This is how we’ve always = moved grands. Right from the dolly down to the floor, with the two legs and lyre. = The Bösendorfer Imperial is the only piano we never have trusted solely on the lyre, = because of it’s extreme weight. In this case, we use a dummy leg instead = of the lyre. We also tip right up onto the dolly. We did this in the CRW = factory when picking up a piano, and they had never seen this method before. = I just always figured everyone did it this way. 25 years, and have never = dropped one *knock knock = knock* (not 25 years for ME mind = you)   Jonathan Finger = RPT   -----Original = Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of John Musselwhite Sent: Friday, April 25, = 2003 10:07 AM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: Neil = Young   <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 = width="100%" style='width:100.0%;margin-left:.5in'> <tr> <td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt = 1.5pt'> <div> The number "410" is probably the = Steinway C&A department number. I'd guess it was either a rental or = was purchased from them and they didn't remove the C&A number and = give it it's "real" serial number, which I've seen happen before. = That number would probably have been stamped on the front of the key = frame if no where else. </div> <div>   </div> <div> That method of putting the legs on is the one they = use in the factory and the Hall as well as elsewhere. The lyre should = hold the weight OK, though it's not my preferred method of doing it. I wouldn't = try it on pianos other than Steinway either. </div> <div>   </div> <div> Did you get to see the concert? Neil Young is = pretty cool. </div> <div>   </div> <div>          =            John </div> <div>   </div> <div id=IncrediOriginalMessage> -------Original = Message------- </div> <div>   </div> <div id=receivestrings> <div> From:= <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</a> </div> <div> Date:= Friday, April 25, 2003 09:49:22 </div> <div> To:</= i> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">PTG</a> </div> <div> Subject:</fo= nt> Neil Young </div> </div> <div>   </div> Hi Folks Got the call to do the Neil Young concert in town tonite. Showed up = for the gig and here they have this NY S&S D with the number 410 where = the serial number usually is. Didnt look all that old really, tho with = all the gadgets attached... Helpenstills, Seducers, Barcas Barries... = :) they had 4 or 5 different mic setups and in addition they had real mics.... I didnt get to really look all that close. I got to see something I'd never seen before. They rolled this thing = on stage in a flight case on its long side. Stuck the back leg on, = the right leg, and the lyre, and then tilted it right out of the case = onto the lyre and back leg before tilting it over and lifting up the = left side to get that leg on. Worked like a charm, but I'd thought the = lyre would have never held up. They carry this thing all around the = world with them. Anyways... in and out in 50 minutes with stage hands around didnt = leave much time for inspection, but I was curious as to what the number = 410 stood for. RicB -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. UiB, Bergen, Norway <a = href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</a> <a = href="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broad= park.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</a> _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: <a = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</a> . </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt = 1.5pt' id=INCREDIFOOTER> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 = cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'>   </td> <td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in' = id=INCREDISOUND>   </td> <td valign=bottom style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in' = id=INCREDIANIM>   </td> </tr> </table> </td> </tr> </table> ____________________________________________________<br= > <a href="http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=309&lang=9"><s= pan style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=20 height=15 src="cid:image001.gif@01C30D69.59C73320" = align=baseline></a>  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - <a href="http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=309&lang=9"><b= >Click = Here</a> </div> </body> </html>