<HTML>In a message dated 7/15/01 12:21:42 AM Central Daylight Time, jformsma@dixie-net.com (John M. Formsma) writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><< hear for yourselves the difference a mild, cycle of 5ths based temperament with octaves that use the piano's own inharmonicity to ease the harshness of the Pythagorean Comma can make. >> Thanks for telling us about this. I was only able to hear it from about 10:20 on, but there was an extended jazz trio (?) at about 10:30, and I heard the piano then. It was hard for me to hear a difference with all the rest of the stuff going on, but it sounded fine. I would have liked to have heard a progression on thirds, and some 10ths and 17ths, because, you know, that is the way to *really* tell if it is right. ;-) Did you do your normal two-pass tuning, or did you spend more time on it since it was to be on national radio?</BLOCKQUOTE> I should have mentioned that the two Jazz interludes occur near the half hour.  You apparently heard one of them.  "I couldn't tell the difference" is actually a compliment and one of the goals.  If you couldn't tell the difference, why would it be a way of tuning the piano which is subject to so much doubt and criticism? The goal is a cleaner, clearer sound from the piano, not a wierd or harsh one. I definitely heard that.  However, with the equipment I had to listen on and the AM broadcast, the tone sounded a little shallow, nearly to the point of being "tinny" to me but I could hear the effects I intended and that perhaps only I fully understand. You could not have heard the EBVT in performance last year even if I had come.  I was only given 45 minutes to play intervals so you could hear how "weird" it sounds and laugh at it.  In any case, I could not have come anyway because I managed to sustain an injury June 25, 2000, that meant I could barely work for quite a while.  I will have surgery for it in August and should be at full strength come July 2002. I spent 3 1/2 hours tuning the piano.  First off, it was a good 10 cents sharp, so I used the program for a Kawai KG-2D which is in another theater to bring it down to pitch and get it basically in tune.  This took 2 complete tunings. I then measured pitch and crafted a custom tuning, note by note which I stored in the Accu-Tuner.  In each of the 4 sections of the piano, I determined the exact value for each note, stored it and when the section was complete, I tuned the unisons.  After the unison tuning, I gave each note 3 or 4 hard test blows, then inserted my muting strips and tuned a final, 4th time.  I took all the time I needed to carefully listen to each note and try it in chords and other combinations.  I took a short break each hour. Fortunately, with the "dog days" schedule a little lighter, I had enough time for what normally would have been 2 appointments, so I used that time to practice my art, even though I was only being paid for an "ordinary" tuning. If you really want to see and hear what the difference I can make in tuning is, you'll just have to convince the Institute Committee of the importance and demand to attend are of what I offer.  Remember that a piano tuned in EBVT with tempered octaves would FAIL the PTG Exam.  What you heard on the radio today might be considered SUBSTANDARD if you think about it in a certain way.  Yet, here I am saying that it is, for once a real improvement over what has been considered to be the very best for quite a few years. I can only claim "improvement" and use the word, "better" because I have come up with something no one else has:  manipulation of temperament AND octaves. None of the electronic tuning programs can reproduce exactly what I do.  But you can do it if you only take the trouble to try to learn and get enough other people interested so that there is sufficient demand for the 2002 Convention in Chicago. The very best showcase would be to get one of the manufacturers who puts on a recital to have me tune their piano for it.  You could also get Virgil Smith RPT to tune ET on an identical piano to the one I would tune in EBVT and have a pianist play examples of music on both. I'm also willing to demonstrate what I do at any Chapter meeting or Regional Seminar that I could get to. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin</HTML>