<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref">I've been doing this every day since = October (as I'm learning to set a temperament), and it was a help until I got down = within about a cent.  Then I started disagreeing with TuneLab, and = rechecking drove me crazy.  (It's extrapolating iH based on just a few = measurements, after all.)  I also found that different treble octave settings = could change the target frequencies in the temperament by around a cent (even = after readjusting the deviation curve).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref">By the way, TuneLab has extensive = support for the RPT Exam, and can automatically score it.  There's a separate = document for these features at <A href="http://www.tunelab-world.com">www.tunelab-world.com</A>.</FONT></= DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref">--Cy--</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref"></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tune4u@earthlink.net = href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">Alan Barnard</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 08, = 2006 8:49 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Using an ETD to = hone aural skills</DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Verdana Ref"></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>Comment ... or maybe more of a = question.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>In doing this, we are using the ETD as the final = judge, the standard if you will. Yet for the RPT exam, the standard is set aurally.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>So, it seems to me, that when you are "off" by a = few 10ths of a cent (or even more) you may actually be "on" to a better = placement of that note than the machine has calculated.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>I'd be interested in others' comments, including = those of you who are examiners. And -- related -- how far different can an ETD calculated tuning be from a good aurally = done exam tuning in your experience.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>Alan Barnard</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>Salem, Missouri</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Eras = Medium ITC" = size=4></FONT> </DIV></DIV></DIV></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY= ></HTML>