<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1476" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>James,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is a Dremel that is no longer made = (early 1960). The speed is slow . I called Dremel for replacement parts (model# = serial# etc) and I was on hold seemingly forever. They could not recognize it, = had no parts,and could not positively identify it other than something that an = old timer said was a Fish Scaler. At any rate, It was the one I learned the technique on and it still works. The rest of the thread has enlightened = me, and I hope it helps you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>HubertLiverman</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tuner/tech</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Opelika AL.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jdally@ecr.net href="mailto:jdally@ecr.net">JAMES = DALLY</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 14, 2004 = 6:52 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fine grit hammer filing</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=4>Hi:  I am interested in = the Flex Tool.  Could you tell me what tool, etc.  Many thanks,  = Jim Dally</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=hubertliverman@bellsouth.net href="mailto:hubertliverman@bellsouth.net">hubert liverman</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 14, = 2004 3:23 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fine grit hammer = filing</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Are you using a flex shaft tool,and = at what rpm? The one I use is a flex shaft some 40 years = old and low speed.I do two passes, one from the 'under' side of the = hammer midway over the strike point,and one down. This leaves a little = 'bead' at the point that can be  by 'light' paper sanding or the = 'juice' of choice give good results when the action is replaced in the piano. I = do not do this in the home, and include it in other action work deemed = necessary... as they all do! </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hubert Liverman</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tuner/tech</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Opelika, AL</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fine grit = hammer filing</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep in mind that the only time I = do this is when trying to salvage an old ready-for-the-grave trashy upright. = Do I voice afterwards? No. Does the piano sound good when I am done? = No. Does it sound better than it was? Yes. Can I do a crude regulation now? = Yes. I only remove felt down to the bottom of the grooves, but yes, this = often leave the hammers will very little felt - but again, trashy pianos = only here. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After a few attempts, I have = worked out a one-swoosh technique for using the Dremel hammer file tool. I = start at 8 o'clock and swoosh right around the whole hammer to a good 4 = o'clock (basically from staple to staple). Once you get the hang of it you = get a real nice smooth hammer surface, good shape, and you go so fast = that there is no burning or anything even close to that.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=quentin.codevelle@tiscali.fr href="mailto:quentin.codevelle@tiscali.fr">Quentin = Codevelle</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November = 14, 2004 9:41 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> fine grit hammer = filing</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Terry,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I tried the router-shaper thing = a few times on extremely grooved hammers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't like this solution very = much because I had the impression the machine is heating the felt = very much, resulting an awful tone,real harsh with a lot of voicing = work to do after the shaping machine operation.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Of course it is fast, but the = other problem is you have to get the habit of using it, because I saw some = hammers shaped with this shaper by someone who never did this kind of = work before, and it was a total disaster.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The hammer set was totally = ruined, with not enough felt left, and an awful hammer shape.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What is your experience with = it? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial = size=2>Quentin</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLO= CKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>