<HTML>In a message dated 6/19/2002 4:29:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, bases-loaded@juno.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subj:Re: Black Finish Date:6/19/2002 4:29:17 PM Pacific Standard Time From:<A HREF="mailto:bases-loaded@juno.com">bases-loaded@juno.com</A> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> To:<A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> Sent from the Internet On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 08:41:22 -0400 Jon Page <<A HREF="mailto:jonpage@attbi.com">jonpage@attbi.com</A>> writes: > It is by using these procedures that superior finishes are attained.  > You can not dissuade me. > > I can look at a finish from a multitude of 'professional' piano > refinishers and point out the lack of > attention to detail. It's not that they don't try, it's just that > they don't know the best way and don't > want to learn because they already know it all. > Jon -   Mark writes Jeez, I think mountains are being made out of molehills, here.  If there is one obvious conclusion from following this list and a refinishers forum over the years, it is that there are a multitude of ways to 'skin the cat', almost ANY cat.  And many 'professional' results are had by many differing methods.  It never ceases to amaze me.  There are so many variables.... shop size, work load, material being used, personal preferences, the list goes on.  And yes, I agree that all refinishing work done does not qualify as 'expert', but I would also contend that there are more than a few that do excellent work, using methods of work that would differ from mine or yours.  </BLOCKQUOTE>      Hi Mark <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> >>>>>>>>I agree with your points here       IMO, only an entry level of common sense is required to ensure adequate finish material is being provided for all edges.  It is a craft, yes, but it is not rocket science. </BLOCKQUOTE> >>>>>>Yes a craft and some science and, frankly enough brain cells focused on observations and techniques to ensure uniformity of results but JEEZ Ya know I've employed three finishers in the last 5 years and ALL of them ,and some quite talented, took more time than I thought appropriate to remeber to get enough material on the edges (especially the long hinged edges)and also to not rub through them as well. Very frustrating              And not rubbing through edges is during rub out is certainly at least as much the <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">responsibility of the 'rubbee' as it is dependent on the amount of material applied, although it is painfully obvious that there must be adequate material there to begin with. </BLOCKQUOTE>   >>>>>> I've seen all of these guys rub through edges that were well loaded ugghh.     Perhaps the biggest mistake with edges, in fact, lies in neglecting to slightly <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">round any sharp edges.  As you are well aware, very little material, using any method, cannot be built up on a sharp edge. </BLOCKQUOTE> >>>>Dittos Mark <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> A good system for doing ANY job is a plus.  But to imply that there is only ONE system that works, well.... You cannot dissuade me.</BLOCKQUOTE> >>>>But Mark it is always a possibility that another process is more refined and effiecent than my own(or others)   >>Dale Erwin>>>>>>>. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> Mark Potter <A HREF="mailto:bases-loaded@juno.com">bases-loaded@juno.com</A> </BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>