<HTML><HTML> To all who answered,     Thanks for the valuable information.  All who answer= ed said no to CA accelerator on pin blocks.      Joe Garrett:  I'll e-mail regarding your work in Kla= math Falls. Thanks again, George Tyson   In a message dated 1/31/04 2:00:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, imatunr@srvinet= .com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hi George. Why waste the money on activator when the glue will set on its own? Also I = only use CA in situations where there is little or no stress on the bond lik= e tuning pins, bridge pins and stripped screw holes and want the clearness o= f the glue to hide the fact that a repair has been done. A trained eye can s= till tell but anyone can tell if too much activator is used.  One other= thing that causes me to forgo the use of activator is that I worry about ge= tting the chem on places that it should not be like bass styring windings.</= FONT><= BR> Oh and one other thing comes to mind. When the activator is used there seem= s to be a greater release of the vapors that I do not want to breathe.</FONT= > Joe Goss <A HREF="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.mothergoosetools.com/">www.mothergoosetools.com</A><BR= > <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">----- Original Message ----- <B= R> From: <A HREF="mailto:TysonPiano@aol.com">TysonPiano@aol.com</A> <B= R> To: <A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:12 AM Subject: Re: CA update procedure Hi Joe Goss, Joe Garrett, and List,    I'm George Tyson, Associate Member in Southern Oregon's Rogue Valley Chapter.  I'm curious about the results of using accelerat= or when CA gluing tuning pins.  I've CA'd two spinets (not together) us= ing accelerator on one and no accelerator on the other.  Both pin block= s tightened up nicely.  I haven't followed up yet on second tunings for= either of these pianos.    Joe Garrett: When you CA'd the German Upright did you use accel= erator?     Has this List come to any sort of agreement regarding whether t= o use or not to use accelerator?  I looks like Joe Goss says no to acti= vator.  When I've phoned the Dryburgh company I've been told yes to acc= elerator.             George Tyson, Klamath Falls, OR    In a message dated 1/26/04 8:13:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, imatunr@srvinet= .com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hi Calin, and list, This is a u= pdate on ideas in  my use of CA glue in treating loose tuning pins. Great, If you use the CA on a grand be sure to take the action out and cover the<BR= > bed with news print ( paper ). Also the glue will run a lot so the use of a very fine needle ( I use my insulin micro fine needles ) will put the glue exactly where you want it to<= BR> be. Use a paper towel near where you are working as each time you move the<B= R> needle there may be some drips that go where you do not want them. Also a two pass approach is best just like in tuning. And in sections of perhaps 24 pins. You may want to mark the top of the pins with chalk for each section until<B= R> you get the idea of where you are going to go next. Treat a section at a time with the first and go back over with a second pass. Look for the welling up of the glue to let you know to stop but also as a<BR= > warning that the glue is going down a crack. In this case stop and go on to<= BR> the next pin letting the glue set up a little before adding more.` You should be able to start tuning the instrument when the last pin is treated as the moisture in the wood and friction of pressure will cause the<= BR> glue to set up a little. Full cure in a day or so without any activator. If you do an upright you may want the instrument to be on its back, but I<BR= > have treated a few pins with the needle with the instrument standing. It is<= BR> a pain in my back to do it this way but a few pins are not too bad. Joe Goss </BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>