<html> At 02:20 PM 2/18/2006 -0500, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>If you have a Schaff extendable hammer you can not do any better, unless you are competing for the strangest or most elaborate tool.  </blockquote> HAH! I'm sorry, and I beg to differ. A LOT. Respectfully, Guy Nichols, RPT <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> That hammer is what 90 percent of the tuners use and there is a reason: because it is the best.   Also, sorry about the misinformation about Jim Coalman Senior.   I thought he had died after his stroke.   He was a wonderful man and I owe a lot to him.   Hope things are going well for you and keep up the good work.   William         PIANO BOUTIQUE William Benjamin Piano Tuner Extraordinaire <a href="http://www.pianoboutique.biz">www.pianoboutique.biz</a> The tuner alone, preserves the tone.   <hr> <div align="center"></div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of pianotune05@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:44 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: RE: tips   Hi William, I thought changing the head is easier than changing the tip.  I kept hitting my hand on the piano when tuning. I think I have the 5 degree head that came with the 21schaff hammer.    Someone mentioned a Jahn hammer.  I've seen one of them. The're pretty neat.  I also saw a hammer that had a screwdriver handle.  Marshall   <dl> <dd>-------------- Original message -------------- <dd>From: "William Benjamin" <pianoboutique@comcast.net> <dd>Marshall, <dd>  <dd>I would suggest you use a 15 degree knuckle and a number 2 medium tip.   You might try a long number 2 tip for those places that you mentioned.   Personally I have a Number 2 long tip with a 15 degree knuckle in my tool kit, because it is easier to change that way in the field. <dd>  <dd>William <dd>  <dd>  <dd>  <dd>  <dd>PIANO BOUTIQUE <dd>William Benjamin <dd>Piano Tuner Extraordinaire <dd><a href="http://www.pianoboutique.biz/">www.pianoboutique.biz</a> <dd>The tuner alone, <dd>preserves the tone. <dd> <hr> <div align="center"></div> <dd>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of pianotune05@comcast.net <dd>Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:15 PM <dd>To: Pianotech List <dd>Subject: Re: tips <dd>  <dd>Thanks Steve. I'll check it out.  I'm curious if the higher degree tips will help me in tight spots and where the piano and handle often meet on tall uprights. <dd>Marshall <dd>  <dd>-------------- Original message -------------- <dd>From: "Steve Fujan" <sjfujan@gmail.com> <dd>Marshall, <dd>  <dd>The probability is very high the Watanabe tips will fit your new Schaff lever.  I have not seen a 20 degree head from Schaff or PianoTek.  For 20 degree heads check out: <a href="http://www.colemantools.com/">www.colemantools.com </a>. <dd>Regards, <dd>Steve Fujan <dd><a href="http://www.fujanproducts.com/">www.fujanproducts.com</a> <dd>  <dd>On 2/17/06, <a href="mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net">pianotune05@comcast.net</a> <<a href="mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net">pianotune05@comcast.net</a>> wrote: <dd>Hi Steve, <dd>Do these tips fit the Schaff #21 lever, the rosewood one?  I experienced the tip problem on Wednesday while tuning a Straube piano. <dd>Marshall <dd>  <dd>-------------- Original message -------------- <dd>From: "Steve Fujan" <<a href="mailto:sjfujan@gmail.com"> sjfujan@gmail.com</a>> <dd>Don, <dd>  <dd>I've sold quite a few of the Watanabe tips.  They have much better fit and consistancy than what I have seen of the recent Schaff tips.  If you are just buying tips, I suggest getting them from PianoTek Supply <a href="http://www.pianoteksupply.com/">www.pianoteksupply.com</a>.  I sell them also, but must mark them up to cover costs. <dd>  <dd>Good luck, <dd>Steve Fujan <dd><a href="http://www.fujanproducts.com/">www.fujanproducts.com</a> <dd>  <dd>On 2/16/06, Don Price <<a href="mailto:dcp3@twol.com">dcp3@twol.com</a>> wrote: <dd>List   -  I've used the Hale hammer (lever), heads and tips for umpteen <dd>years.  Needing to replace a couple of tips and since Hale is not longer <dd>in business, I ordered from Schaff.   The Schaff tips fit the threads on <dd>the hammer O.K., but the tip doesn't fit the pins as well as the Hale <dd>tips did.   The Schaff tip seems to fit well on the pin at the very end <dd>of the tip, but there seems an extreme amount in and out play (on an <dd>upright) on the end of the hammer.   On a twelve inch hammer length, the <dd>end of the hammer will move in/out 1 1/2 to 2 inches.   The Hale tips <dd>let the hammer end move less than 1/2 inch. <dd>Do any of you have a recommendation for another place to find tips which <dd>provide a better fit with the pin? <dd>Thanks. <dd>Don <dd>_____________! ! _______________________! ___________ <dd>Pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> <dd>  </dl>  </blockquote></html>