<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=rol= e_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV>   Hi Ric</DIV> <DIV>   For Phil Sake let's make the distinction and ask are these= Ronsen Wurzen or Euro's?</DIV> <DIV>  Each will be treated differently but traditional procedures are = in order</DIV> <DIV>   RIc your advice will work well on Ronsen Wurzens but = with  way less amounts of needling which is typical in the case wi= th the Yankee version.</DIV> <DIV>   Regards & welcome back</DIV> <DIV>   Dale Erwin</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size= =2>Nothing really magical here Mark.  Traditional voicing proceedures work <BR>b= est with Wurzen felt pressed at reasonable levels. You should have to <BR>open= up the hammers a bit in the middle sections, tho you shouldnt have <BR>to dea= l with any draconian needling proceedures.  Usually somewhere <BR>betwe= en 20-40 deep needling stabs (with 3 needles in your tool) stagered <BR>up an= d down the shoulders is enough to get a fine basic first voice.  <BR>Usually you end up with most of your needling in the midbass through t= he <BR>tenor and into the C5-C6 octave area.  Lowest bass may need a bit= of <BR>juice, and the highest range (at least from F7 upwards)  usually always <BR>needs a bit of help.<BR><BR>Get ahold of Andre for some very go= od specifics advice on needling. But <BR>in general your first voicing is abo= ut opening up the hammers for power <BR>and the basic tone picture you are af= ter. Not much is done up close to <BR>the crown.  Reshaping and mating is done, along with any string leveling <BR>needed before going on to the sec= ond voicing. I find it nice to wait <BR>over nite after the first voicing anyways.<BR><BR>Cheers<BR>RicB<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>