<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1491" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; = FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" bottomMargin=7 bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 = rightMargin=7> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, you are correct that you (or = whomever) could ask for permission. Maybe they would say yes. My guess is that they = would say no. That is why they have the printed copies of that information = available for sale. Any organization that provides a benefit requires funds to = operate. Sales of their informational handouts is one way they generate adequate funds. = That's all. That's also why they have a fee for the PTG Journal and why there = is a fee to attend a conference. It takes money to run an = organization.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's not "supposedly", but rather the = fundamental mission of the PTG (and pretty much any professional trade = association) is to HELP its members. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In a manner somewhat similar to = it not being a crime for you to charge for your services, it is = appropriate for PTG to charge for some of their benefits. The two diverge in that technician's fees commonly are based on what their environment = will yield, but PTG fees are based more on what is needed to fund the organization.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>With respect to the copyright rules, = since you are a PTG member, and supposedly the PTG wants to HELP its members, = why not ask for ask permission . . .As long as you are not</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- passing something off as your own . = . . or</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- profiting from the copyrighted work = without paying royalties . . .</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The owner, in this case, PTG , would = be , or should be inclined to grant permission.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If not, then one wonders why bother = to partake of the organization . . </FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <DIV><BR>Jim Kinnear</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>