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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Isaac,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for your advice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll contact Desfougeres and =
ask if they
can also put new leather on those special =
rollers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll ask what method they use. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The hammers that I had get refelt from =
Abel were ok
but as you say, they should have more experience with this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have recently restrung one of those =
parallel
Erard Grands that you mention (used the Roslau blue wire , single
strings)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>but left the original basstrings =
(still in
good condition and good quality) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Do you think the Roslau blue is not the =
right wire
to use?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The results were good and yes, I agree, =
very nice
pianos.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For me from the best ever made and I =
now better
understand those people who does only want to hear</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>about parallel strung pianos. Fine and =
rich
sound.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tuning those is verry easy and
pleasant.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pierre Gevaert.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=oleg-i@wanadoo.fr href="mailto:oleg-i@wanadoo.fr">Isaac =
OLEG
SIMANOT</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 20, 2002 =
12:34
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Unglued =
Hammerheads
(Clamping)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Pierre,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>Ask
the job to be done by DESFOUGERES in PARIS.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>45
rue Max Dormoy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>75018 PARIS</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>phone 033 01 46 07 22 84</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>These are French pianos they know very =
well</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>They
can too put new leather on the "backchecks" , on the rollers, and new
"galuchat' on the whippen lever.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>Abel
does the job too, don't know the result.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Frankly I am not absolutely sure these refeletings are not =
done in a
press, I just had a (retired) colleague who had all these individual =
wood
clamps, closing with a wedge, for these re-felting jobs, and =
Desfougeres have
the same)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>But
the pressure with these wood presses is as high that with the other =
press
.Refeltings are not done in hydraulic or pneumatic press, just the
traditional manual one, a modern press is used to put the felt in =
shape a
bit with warmth before gluing in the manual one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>I've
seen Erard shanks allowing for modern hammers too (with a little dowel =
at the
extremity).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>I
guess these where originals. On these you have modern
hammers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>These parallel Erard Grands where build for 100 years use, =
some have a
very lively soundboard yet, they have a very nice sound, the action is =
a
little special of course with a 64-58 -mm hammer /string
distance.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>If
possible to use the correct strings on it the sound will be
better.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>Hope
that helps.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Isaac OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=656461823-19032002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>P.S
please let us know how they refelt (press or individual) if you
ask.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B>
owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]<B>De la =
part de</B>
Gevaert Pierre<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> mardi 19 mars 2002
22:39<BR><B>À :</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> =
Re:
Unglued Hammerheads (Clamping)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Isaac,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I intend to let refelt the hamers =
of a verry
nice Erard grand of 1927 wich has a tiny sound due to the hamers =
beeing
reshaped</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to often.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And indeed there are no tails. =
Thoes that meen
that it is more difficult to obtain good hamers due to the =
impossibility to
clamp the tails? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any good adresses in France? I was =
thinking to
ask Abel, but i'm not shure they can refelt such a =
hammers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any way, just great pianos those =
Erards exept
for their bizare kind of hammershanks and hammers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pierre Gevaert</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Belgium</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=oleg-i@wanadoo.fr =
href="mailto:oleg-i@wanadoo.fr">Isaac OLEG
SIMANOT</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 19, =
2002 1:11
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Unglued =
Hammerheads
(Clamping)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002>Richard,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002>The metal clamps yet sold by Renner are =
indeed
designed to clamp hammer felt. That was done in ancient times =
eventually
to glue some new felt on multi layers hammers (and leather too of
course)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002>Another method involved the uses of a =
wood clamp,
the Erard hammers refelting are yet done as that, as they cant be =
mounted
in a machine for gluing new felt (no tails).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002>These clamps are very strong, the =
surely could
help to clamp back some old felt, but the hammers are ruined =
anyway (as
probably the piano ). And yes for sure they don't really apply to =
modern
hammer making.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002>Friendly from</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002>Isaac OLEG</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=941390200-19032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B>
owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]<B>De la =
part
de</B> Richard Brekne<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> lundi 18 mars =
2002
19:05<BR><B>À :</B> =
pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re:
Unglued Hammerheads<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Paul Plumb wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I =
have been
asked to reglue hammerheads that have come loose from the =
molding (not
the shanks) because of heat in a fire. I would like to =
know the
best kind of glue to use if not hide glue and best way to =
clamp
them.</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>???? Clamping ???? We =
do not clamp
hammerheads.</FONT></FONT> <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Any =
other
information that may be helpful would be appreciated. =
The piano
is about 30 years old and there does not appear to be any =
other
problems except rust formation on the pins and strings. =
I
realize that some of the other hammers may become loose in the =
future
and have warned the client.</FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Thanks,</FONT></FONT> =
<FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Paul =
Plumb</FONT></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT face=Arial><FONT =
size=-1>Plumb
Pianos</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial><FONT =
size=-1>A good
wood glue should work just fine... Is this an upright or a =
grand.
Perhaps you might get a tech with some experience in fire/smoke =
damage
to take a second look at this instrument. Not all problems =
relating to
fire / smoke become all the acute immediatly after the
event.</FONT></FONT> <BR> <BR> <BR>
<P>-- <BR>Richard Brekne <BR>RPT, N.P.T.F. <BR>Bergen, Norway =
<BR><A
=
href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</A>
<BR><A
=
href="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broad=
park.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</A>
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