<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4A70A.3132F070">  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple = style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> I think I do understand. The issue isn’t so much pianos out of the factory where things may be working well. My point had as much to do with = soundboards that left the factory 100 years ago. = But I think it’s enough on this point. The expression spinning wheels was not aimed at you personally, it simply means that the discussion is going = nowhere.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net <o:p></o:p> </div> -----Original = Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of antares Sent: Thursday, September = 30, 2004 3:57 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: spinning = wheels <o:p> </o:p> On 1-okt-04, at 0:23, David Love wrote:<o:p></o:p> That's fine, but a Yamaha requires a fairly = dense hammer because of the way the soundboard is designed. There are many pianos that have quite = a different set up and whose hammer needs will be different. = <o:p></o:p> In that case I think you don't really understand me. I am certainly not as you say "spinning = wheels", why should I be spinning wheels David?. I have been voicing grand pianos = almost every day for many years. That's how I found out about the different = hammer shapes for different types of grands. Because I spent almost all of my professional life I also invested a lifetime in developing my thoughts = about hammers and I was among the first techs here being aware of the return = of the once so gorgeous Wurzen felt that almost every factory in the world = used, at that time. Heck, even Ray Negron told us here that his father too used = Wurzen. It is not for nothing that most factories today use Wurzen again and that we too have been working = exclusively with that stuff. But enough of this wheel = spinning, I wish happiness to all hammer makers and equal happiness to all hammer = users. This is not a contest and hah! I have certainly no investments in the = Wurzen factory. All I wished to say here is that every soundboard sound improves = mightily with Wurzens provided the shape is right, the hammers have been voiced in a = proper way, and that the way the action plays is not ruined by kilo's of hammer = felt, as some here think is such a miracle. But, let each find out for him/herself, I have said more than enough = already. André Oorebeek <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] = On Behalf Of antares Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 11:13 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Evidence of overlacquered hammers On 30-sep-04, at 19:53, David Love wrote:<o:p></o:p> I think you misunderstand me. Of course you = can ruin the tone by a poor quality of poorly voiced hammer. In your case, clearly the tone was there waiting to come out with a decent hammer. That is not = always<o:p></o:p> the<o:p></o:p> case. I think we are spinning our wheels here. David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net<o:p></o:p> No David, I clearly understood you. The instrument I mentioned was a low life 'older Yamaha' G3. The AA Wurzen hammers (made by Renner) gave it a completely new dimension. I had exactly the very same experience with a younger C3 about 10 years = old. Not a very bad one, not a very good one. I installed our AA Wurzen covered hammers and they altered the instrument. It almost sounded German. hah! André Oorebeek _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> André Oorebeek<o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html>