<html> Owen - Have you had a chance to measure the downbearing and, if so, how did you do it? David Skolnik At 09:08 PM 03/05/2002 -0500, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Del, Dale, Jim, Robert, Wim and everyone else...   When the piano arives, the very first thing I am going to do is measure the down bearing and see if  I can determine just what direction the board is crowned.  I spoke to the owner of the piano again today, I asked him if he found the serial number...Oh yes, says he, it's easy to remember to..... A435.( Del.. What was that you said about extremely high scale tensions...highest I've ever measured?.)  Would you want to lower the tension so the piano could comfortably be raised to 440? I think I'm in about as deep as I can stand for one day. By the way.. you guys are truly a great resource. Thanks for your interest and support. I will keep all posted on this one. Thankyou, Owen. ----- Original Message ----- <dl> <dd>From: <a href="mailto:Erwinspiano@AOL.COM">Erwinspiano@AOL.COM</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <dd>Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:43 PM <dd>Subject: Re: Sohmer <dd>In a message dated 3/5/2002 9:27:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, <a href="mailto:pianobuilders@olynet.com">pianobuilders@olynet.com</a> writes: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> <dd>Subj:Re: Sohmer  <dd>Date:3/5/2002 9:27:35 AM Pacific Standard Time <dd>From:<a href="mailto:pianobuilders@olynet.com">pianobuilders@olynet.com</a> <dd>Reply-to:<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <dd>To:<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <dd>Sent from the Internet <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:Erwinspiano@AOL.COM">Erwinspiano@AOL.COM</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <dd>Sent: March 05, 2002 6:12 AM <dd>Subject: Re: Sohmer <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite> <dd>Has anybody had experience with a Sohmer piano with agraffes on the long bridge? <dd>Thankyou, <dd>Owen</blockquote> <dd>                    Owen <dd>    Yes I have and they went all the way up. I wrote of this before but this piano had agraffes all the way up and the board was a reverse crown design. Freak design but awesome sound. A difficult on to string></blockquote> <dd>               Hmmmm.... <dd>         Are you sure those were reverse crown by design? Those I've done had positive crown. And extremely high scale tensions -- highest I've ever measured. Around 62,000 lbs (28,000 kgf +) or better as I recall. Took some doing to bring it down and retain the agraffe design (as per the customers request). <dd>Del <dd>          Am I sure. Hmmmmmmm</blockquote> <dd>     You know my wife is the one who usually ask that question and generally try to be sure and in this case it was too intentional to be an accident. A string across the under side of the belly in many places showed the ribbing to be very uniform and symetrical (o.k. Quasi you know what I mean) You could have made salad nicely in it once the strings were off. Also the bearing was still adequately positive and also intentional looking and reasonable. Sustain as long as your life. I don't know I liked it. It had what I call the magic soundboard syndrome. Any things possible I guess but if it was an accident ,which I doubt, If it ain't broke don't fix it. <dd>>>>>>>>>>>>Dale>>>>>>>>>>> </dl></blockquote></html>