<HTML>While I've ne= ver repinned a whole piano, I'm about to(the old S and S upright with Verdig= ris...:-).  And I find this discussion fascinating.  It seems that= there are as many opinions about proper pinning of new flanges as there are= technicians.  I'm getting ideas about ways to go about pinning/repinni= ng certain pianos that I work on regularly. I have seen nothing etched in stone, other than that preferences vary fr= om tech to tech.  It makes more sense for each technician to determine = what the individual player likes and base the friction weight on that. &nbsp= ;It is, after all, the client's piano. Thanks, all, for offering so many different ways of seeing a problem. Dave Stahl In a message dated 8/24/04 8:21:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BobDavis88@= aol.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> Avery asks: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Wasn't there recently a dis= cussion about the "new" way that Steinway is recommending pinning their actions. Very "loose" as compared to the traditional metho= ds, as I remember</BLOCKQUOTE> and Thump writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-= LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm with Sarah in that I think utterly slop-free bushings with minimal friction would be ideal.</BLOCKQUOTE> Their (Steinway's) idea is exactly that. They are talking 2-4 gms or 1-3= , depending upon with whom you talk and when. They say the difference is the= Teflon impregnation, which allows low friction but a firm bushing. Many pia= nists seem to like the feel. There seem to be two arguments for a traditional 4-5 gram fit: truer gui= dance of the flight of the hammer (taken care of by a lower friction materia= l?), and higher friction to make the spring tighter, which in turn makes the= jack return faster. Among my clientele I'm not seeing a clear preference. Bob Davis </BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>