<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jonathan, Dave, et al,,,,,,,,  I = would like to think that having an ETD "go down" would not inhibit any piano = technician from continuing in his work. It might be a little more like "work", but if = you really can't do it without the machine, then you need a little more education = in the tuning art. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    Even if I'm using my = Accutuner, I'm still listening to intervals as I go. I know I see a lot of people = who aren't doing that. I think it was David Love, wasn't it, who said that = all his fourths beat about the same?  I've been checking this, and yes, you = can get a very lovely result with this amount of stretch. Even if you use a = machine, one of the last things I do before leaving the piano is to check the = seventeenths for smooth progression, any notes that have "slipped" will stick out = like a sore thumb.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    And of course, the = RPT exam is only a minimum of what is expected of someone who wished to attain that = level in our field, there's a lot more work to do later, if your desire is to improve.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just my 2 cents, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kevin. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Dave, that's a good question.<BR>I had heard that aural tuning was getting = worse and worse...Are aural<BR>tuners finally bad enough that we need to ask = that question?  *nudge<BR>nudge, wink wink*<BR><BR><BR>Jonathan Finger = RPT<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A = href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On<BR>Behalf Of Dave Davis<BR>Sent: = Sunday, March 30, 2003 10:50 PM<BR>To: Kevin E. Ramsey; Pianotech<BR>Subject: = Relevant OT (?) was - Computer clock<BR><BR>Kevin,<BR>You forgot the ever = present "how many can tune without<BR>the Electronic Tuning Device"<BR><BR>Still = learning that one,<BR><BR>Dave Davis<BR>Renton, WA<BR><BR>--- "Kevin E. Ramsey" = <<A href="mailto:kevin.e.ramsey@cox.net">kevin.e.ramsey@cox.net</A>> wrote:<BR>>     what happens when the GPS = system goes down?  How<BR>many pilot/navigators can actually plot a course = with<BR>a sextant?  Or how many people can do advanced math<BR>without calculators???<BR>>     Scary, when you think = about it.....<BR>> Kevin E. Ramsey, RPT  = <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>