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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andre is the the european =
distributor of the
verituner isn´t he ? ;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>friendly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bernhard</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
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black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=antares@euronet.nl =
href="mailto:antares@euronet.nl">antares</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 07, =
2006 12:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> something about ETD's =
from an
insider</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On 6-jan-2006, at 23:43, <A
href="mailto:b98tu@t-online.de">b98tu@t-online.de</A> =
wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">No they don?t and there are good =
physical reasons
why they don?t. (</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN =
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You will find not one?tuner at Steinway =
(at least
in Hamburg) who is allowed to service concerts with an ETD for =
example).
T</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">his has nothing to do with =
traditionalism or
ignorance to modern technology.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Most?modern ETD?s are doing fast =
fourier
transformation (FFT)?for pitch calculation.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Be sure, the he ear has no FFT =
transformator...
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There is a big difference in what you =
get
measured and what you hear.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In?some ETD manuals you find sometimes =
statements
of "0.1 Hz accuracy"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This?is true for a signal that would =
not float in
pitch over more than?2 or 3 seconds to catch enough samples at the =
current
possible samplerates</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">. =
P</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">iano
sounds are a really nonlinear matter that can?float in?pitch?up =
to?some?Hz
over?a second, when strucked firm. By transforming a signal from the =
time
domain into the frequency domain with the desired accuracy (what =
most?ETD?s
do), you loose the information when a singal passes exactly what =
frequency
at what time. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN =
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tuning with an ETD makes it necessary =
to tune at
low volume levels (Pitch float is less at low volume levels). A =
good?aural
tuner tune with a firm struck,?to</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">catch
also the transient phase of the sound at higher volumes. Low volume =
tuning
is like not voicing the left pedal, it leaves?the transient phase =
untuned.
But sometimes it may happen, that the pianist also use volumes above =
mp...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bernhard Stopper</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Qui habet aures audiendi
audiat</SPAN></FONT></DIV></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Never the less..........</DIV>
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<DIV>After having tuned all the piano's in the world, so to speak, I =
am still
mightily happy with my Verituner.</DIV>
<DIV>I have tuned a great number of piano's with the Verituner since =
about
2000, and you know what?</DIV>
<DIV>about every tuning I made with the aid of this invention of Dave
Carpenter turned out to be? the very best tuning I have ever made in =
my whole
life, with the acceptance of one tuning which was my final exam tuning =
at
Yamaha in Hamamatsu.</DIV>
<DIV>That tuning was just as good as the average Verituner =
tuning.</DIV>
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<DIV>I t was a shocking discovery, let me tell you....</DIV>
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