Friction/Buzz at Agraffes

[Roger Jolly]

Hi Jeannie,
                I have suceeded a couple of times by using the Agraffe
insertion tool with my universal handle, and a pair of vice grips gripping
the blade.
Just give the critter a VERY slight twist, some times it makes it worse so
back off in the opposite direction.  Be very cautious, the brass may not
like it. <g>  Don't ask how I know.
Heck it had to be changed any way. < big G>
Roger



At 12:23 PM 06/03/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Ray and List,
>Boy, I was just about to compose a post on this very topic, but Ray beat me
>to it.  Maybe all the responses will be helpful to both of us.
>I tuned a 1983 Steinway L a couple of weeks ago that appeared to have been
>well taken care of prior to a four-year lapse in tuning.  I did a 16 cent
>pitch raise and as I raised the pitch in the tenor section, note for note,
>the strings began to jangle and vibrate and sound absolutely horrid.  I
>thought, at first that maybe the problem was with the bridge pins.  But
>later came back to the agraffes.  I lifted, shifted, prodded and prayed over
>each one and could not create any appreciable change.  Are there any other
>tricks I might try short of removing all of these strings and dealing with
>the agraffes that way?
>Could this be due to the kink in the wire from the piano having set below
>pitch for that four year period?  Could it be from someone over-zealously
>lifting the strings and introducing a kink?  Help!
>Jeannie
>
>Jeannie Grassi, RPT
>mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-caut@ptg.org [mailto:owner-caut@ptg.org]On Behalf Of Ray
>Bentley
>Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 9:58 AM
>To: caut@ptg.org
>Subject: Friction/Buzz at Agraffes
>
>
>Has anyone else found strings to buzz at the agraffe?  I have a piano that
>seems to.  I can usually stop the buzz by raising and lowering the pitch,
>thereby moving the string back and forth through the agraffe.  These strings
>also pop loose at the agraffe during tuning.  It doesn't seem to matter how
>long it has been since the previous tuning, they still pop during tuning.
>Has anyone tried clp or something else there with success.  Also there are a
>few pianos that don't render well.  That is, the friction at the capo bar is
>such that when you pull a string up, it continues to raise with firm blows,
>and vice versa.  Any cure for this?
>
>Thanks to all.
>
>Ray T. Bentley, RPT
>Lewis and Clark Community College
>Godfrey, IL
> 
Roger Jolly
Saskatoon, Canada.
306-665-0213
Fax 652-0505