Ric writes: << You are not supposed to listen to the G#--Eb "wolf fifth" or these "wolf thirds" G#--C, F#--Bb, the C#--F, or the B--Eb. When you encounter them in music you arpegiate them (stacato) and DON'T use the sustain pedal. << hmm, maybe mention that to Mozart! >>In Meantone you are supposed to listen to the C-E-G and delight in the pure sounding triad impossible (so they say) on keyboard instruments. If you think that is heavenly, there are minors that are absolutly ethereal. "Amazing Grace" and Greensleaves" will prove it. I would love to hear it accompany singers.<< This brings up a pertinent personal point. I have had a number of meantone tunings scattered around in my environment over the last several years while we researched things for the CD. I still can't get used to the sound. The purity of the thirds starts to wear thin on me after about five minutes. That is one reason for the short Scarlatti intro with this tuning, to my 20th century ears it sounds like all icing and no cake. Hence, my amazment at writers that prefer the Mozart in 1/4 comma, not only is the wolf clangorous, the contrasts are gone. Jazz is another thing entirely. Using the Hawkes 1/6 comma in the house, we had a jazz friend over(he plays keyboards for a large-scale "country" group, but he also plays a lot of Baroque-Classical music, and lives for live jazz. Under his hands, the meantone came alive and the wolves were no more than tonal developments of stuff he had begun long before getting to them. And he got to them all! They were not wolves to him, but rather, strong resources, and the sound was quite alluring. (Mozart DID NOT compose anything like what this guy was playing). >> Leave a few 1/4 comma Meantones around and you might just start a new folk song era.>> Actually, in Nashville, it was referred to as "the folk-scare of the '60's! (Think session pickers in polyester leisure suits). I recently tuned a pair of auto harps for a producer's recording session here. One I tuned in a 1/4 comma, thinking "Why not, the chord bars didn't play any of the wolf keys". The other I tuned in a Kirnberger. They asked that the meantone be retuned, not because it sounded out of tune to them, but because it sounded "dead". I tuned it in a Young, slightly different from the Kirnberger. They thought it sounded just fine, and until I pointed out the disparity between the two well temperaments, they thought both tunings were the same. This tells me that the musicians ears sensed the change from ET to MT and didn't like it, even though their ears were not well enough attuned to tell the difference between two WT's. I don't know what relevance this may have for others here, but thought it an interesting perspective on how some non-et tunings are perceived. Thanks for the note, REgards, Ed Foote Vanderbilt
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