---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Isaac, Yes, the slight uncoupling increases the sustain among other things. The pedals function as normal. At this point all installations are 3 pins per string. The treble sections are actually more stable. I will be interested to see your comments about the French designs. Tim Coates Wapin Company LLP Isaac OLEG wrote: > Tim, > > thanks for your mail, I will see this system I heard about next week, > and send some comments. > > So it is that slight uncoupling effect that is the base of the process > ? Is the left pedal working the same on these pianos ? > > I understand that when a board is tired, it is easier to gain some > sustain, that having the board alive again (I mean responsive, multi > layered, etc...) > > I'll follow your idea and have a look at the wapin site again. > > Are all the systems 3 pin systems (I thought of eventual problems of > string riding in the treble because of the front vertical pin) ? > > Thanks, and best regards > > Till next time > > Isaac OLEG > > Envoyé : samedi 7 décembre 2002 03:18 > À : oleg-i@wanadoo.fr; CAUT > Objet : Re: soundboard springs > > Isaac, > > Thank you for your comments. The Wapin Bridge does not work > because of three bridge pins. It is a common mistake. It is the > front pin that causes the slight uncoupling of the string to the > bridge. The middle pin does nothing but trap. > > Perhaps you would like to revisit Wapin. Europe seems to be > looking for something like Wapin. There have been European > rebuilders inquiring about Wapin. I don't have much experience > with European pianos, but I understand they have a very short sustain. > > A recently certified US Wapin Installer used a 6' Grotian as his > first install. It sits right beside a rebuilt SSB, also rebuilt. > He says "the 6' Grotian gives the SSB a run for the money, except > in the very low bass". Which is to be expected. A previously > short sustain 6' piano now competing against a good 7' SSB? > > Tim Coates > Wapin Company LLP > > Isaac OLEG wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> I had some inquiries about the Wapin a few years ago, but did not >> spend much time on that after that. >> >> It seems evident to me that if the Wapin (3 pins system ?) allow >> for a better bridge string transmission, even on a tired board >> that will help a lot by avoiding the lack of efficient pressure >> (DB) on the board. >> I believe that the side pressure of the standard pins is not >> helping the string enough under the impact of the hammer. >> >> I received some very good comments lately , of the use of the >> Wapin setup in that case. I will see another setup of the same >> kind soon (from a French designer). >> >> Regards. >> >> Isaac OLEG >> >> >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]De la >> part de Tim Coates >> Envoyé : jeudi 5 décembre 2002 13:13 >> À : College and University Technicians >> Objet : Re: soundboard springs >> >> Yes. I know there are many out there who refuse to believe >> it, but Wapin has compensated for a dead soundboard many >> times. I've experienced it several times. The board still >> needs to have crown and there needs to be downbearing. >> >> I have considered installing the treble tension resonator on >> one piano. It has Wapin on the Killer Octave and sounds >> great were it once was dead. I can hear a slight >> difference in the entire treble when the air gets dry, >> though. I think the resonator could help the case and >> soundboard stay together better in that area. I've talked >> with some people about the resonators: works for some, >> doesn't work for others. The idea has been around for years. >> >> Tim Coates >> Wapin Company LLP >> >> Richard Brekne wrote: >> >>> >>> Tim... are you claiming that the Wapin can compensate for a >>> dead soundboard ? >>> >>> just curious >>> >>> RicB >>> >>> "On 12/4/2002 at 8:12 AM Tim Coates wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Dave, >>>> >>>> I'm dead serious when I say this: you need to install >>>> Wapin. It has never failed to fix this problem. There >>>> is a pianist who drives from Dallas to Cedar Rapids, IA >>>> to record because there is no Wapin SSD in Dallas. >>>> It's real. It works. It's cost effective. >>>> >>>> You don't have be worried about removing it because it >>>> didn't work. >>>> >>>> Tim Coates >>>> Wapin Company LLP >>>> >>> -- >>> Richard Brekne >>> RPT, N.P.T.F. >>> UiB, Bergen, Norway >>> mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no >>> http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html >>> <http://home.broadpark.no/%7Erbrekne/ricmain.html> >>> >>> >> > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/84/56/23/91/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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