More Realistic Test was RE: tuning exam in U.S.

[Richard Brekne]

Ah... and here I'd thought you were being fercisious.... :)

I'm not sure just how much thats in the five lectures is directly usefull to such an
endeavour... tho most certainly a course could be constructed upon that document for
anyone interested... tho I like better the inclusion of Benades book in your
thinking..... a general course on music instrument acoustics, with a lot of zooming in
on piano relavant material might be a real good thing.

There are lots of general woodworking skills for rebuilders that could be taught and
assesed, and the upright and grand action can be given far more attention then the
present technical exams give them.  Piano scaling issues,  room acoustics,
administration skills  ... and.... well... there are a whole bunch of issues a CAUT
reponisible for 150 + pianos could have plenty of use for.

Point being... if you can provide to university / organization administrators,  a
reasonable << guarantee >> that said RPT has been certified as having demonstrated
extra proficiency levels in certain key areas relevant to administrating and carrying
out such work...then the whole idea of a new classification can make some sense....
and this is one way of going about it.



Ed Sutton wrote:

>     Maybe I should have said a little more.
>     I like what Wichard and Woger are proposing here.
>     The devil will be in the details, and I feel it would be a faster start to
> select some texts, such as the _Five Lectures_ or the acoustic textbooks by Hall
> or Benade, perhaps a history review such as the new edition of _Giraffes, Black
> Dragons and Other Pianos_, and develop a written exam on the material in the text.
> Select _Journal_ articles could also be made into texts on specific topics.  Once
> developed, such tests would be easy to administer and objective to score.
>     And hopefully, exciting to take and pass.....so that we could develop some
> positive momentum on the project, which would help get us through the more
> complicated development of advanced tests of mechanical and woodworking skills.
>     The acoustic and historic knowledge that (we hope) informs our work, is a more
> important basis than the mechanics and woodworking. There's no point in knowing
> how to do it if you don't know when, why and where to do it. We have all seen work
> that had the "how" without the "when" and "where."
>     My vacation begins when I push the send button! Bye.
>         Ed S.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>; "College and University Technicians"
> <caut@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: More Realistic Test was RE: tuning exam in U.S.
>
> > I think.... that the existing RPT tuning exam is far to cumbersom to
> > administer and set up for the level of skill it wants to confirm. The
> > technical and written exams are ok... but this need to set up a piano in
> > advance with three RPTs (one of them a CTE), with all the hours of
> > pretuning and detuning... frankly... its ridiculous.... especially so
> > given the degree of expertise it requires to pass and the fact that the
> > test does not really require you to tune the piano per se.  The whole
> > thing shouldnt be much more complicated then the very first part of the
> > exam that deals with setting pitch.
> >
> > That being said... this discussion more or less arose from the
> > discussion on caut about the new guidelines... and one of the spinoffs
> > there was the idea of a special CAUT classification of tuner and how to
> > go about setting qualifications standards.
> >
> > I would like to echo a suggestion from our freind Woger (newly weleased)
> > from up the yonder in Nannook Land...
> >
> > A new and very highly qualified technician classification could be
> > contrived by first defining what skills and levels need to be obtained,
> > and then by offering classes in conjuction with regional conventions, or
> > other appropriate locations and times.
> >
> > An example could be a course on bridge recapping, where succesfull
> > completion of the class would include the student actually producing a
> > recapped bridge fully drilled and pinned in a real or mock up piano
> > situation.
> >
> > Each succesfully completed class would bear its own tag so that RPT's
> > could add to their list of qualifications any areas of specialties they
> > have demonstrated special expertise in.
> >
> > Some combination of all classes could result in a new designation(s) for
> > the technician that reflects their area of specialization.
> >
> > RicB
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Richard Brekne
> > RPT, N.P.T.F.
> > UiB, Bergen, Norway
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Richard Brekne
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