CA ing bridge pins

Don pianotuna@accesscomm.ca
Fri, 31 Oct 2003 11:16:07


Hi Jeff,

That "one piano" will eventually have the same negative effect unless
humidity is controlled. 

At 10:42 PM 10/30/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Fred, Horace, Ron, and Wim,
>	Thanks for your replies.  I have some thin CA on order from Pianotek and
>plan to give a try.  I have one piano that gets rather negatively affected
>by low RH% in the winter, and am anxious to see if it helps with the false
>beats.  I'm pretty convinced that it's not a long-term concern (or even
>short-term with a little heat applied) to pull the pins if needed, but it's
>an interesting question about the longevity of the benefits if the bond is
>not in fact a real strong one.  Do some use heat to help pull the CA down
>around the pin, or does the thin stuff do this well enough on it's own?
>
>Jeff Stickney, RPT
>University of Montana
>jpstickney@montanadsl.net
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of
>> Fred Sturm
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:22 AM
>> To: College and University Technicians
>> Subject: RE: CA ing bridge pins
>>
>>
>> Jeff,
>> 	I haven't actually followed myself up on this yet, but
>> I don't think it
>> will be a problem. My experience with thin CA is that the
>> bond is not a
>> tremendously strong one. If I had trouble removing CA'd
>> bridge pins, I
>> think tapping them all first would break any glue bond. I
>> guess I should
>> experiment with an old bridge or piece of maple to be sure.
>> Lots of folks
>> have been epoxying bridge pins in for a good while, which I
>> think would be
>> more problematic.
>> Regards,
>> Fred Sturm
>> University of New Mexico
>>
>> --On Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:28 PM -0600 Jeff Stickney
>> <jpstickney@montanadsl.net> wrote:
>>
>> > List,
>> > 	Sorry to jump in a little late on this, but I have one
>> question regarding
>> > use of CA on bridge pins.  It sounds like a great solution for loose
>> > pins/false beats, the same as in a pin block (not the false
>> beats part),
>> > but as Dan Levitan brought up in the August issue of the
>> PTJ, is this a
>> > problem for the rebuilder when it comes time to pull the
>> pins?  Does the
>> > CA lose it's grip over time, and the pins come out easily,
>> or is this a
>> > potential problem in the long term?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jeff Stickney, RPT
>> > University of Montana
>> > jpstickney@montanadsl.net
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On
>> Behalf Of
>> >> Wolfley, Eric (wolfleel)
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:48 AM
>> >> To: 'College and University Technicians'
>> >> Subject: RE: CA ing bridge pins
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Ron,
>> >>
>> >> Is this the "Royal Onyx" glue found in the "Recreational
>> >> Adhesives" section
>> >> of the website? Its described as glue designed for gluing
>> >> golf club heads
>> >> on.
>> >>
>> >> I like the concept of "recreational adhesives"....kind of
>> >> brings up the idea
>> >> of unmentionable pranks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >> Eric Wolfley
>> >> Head Piano Technician
>> >> Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music
>> >> University of Cincinnati
>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Ron Koval [mailto:drwoodwind@hotmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:30 AM
>> >> To: caut@ptg.org
>> >> Subject: CA ing bridge pins
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi all
>> >>
>> >> I've only got a few years experience with this, but I'd
>> >> suggest you check
>> >> out the rubberized super glue sold made by Bob Smith
>> >> industries.  My source
>> >> is the local hobby shop, but they are online
>> >> http://bsiadhesives.com
>> >>
>> >> This glue is jet black, (I've used it for finish repairs,
>> >> too) so it blends
>> >> in with the top of the bridge.  It only comes in medium
>> viscosity.  I
>> >> believe that it is less likely to fracture with humidty
>> >> shifts.  Like with
>> >> any CA, the key is careful application, good lighting, and
>> >> ventilation, if
>> >> you are sensitive to the fumes.
>> >>
>> >> Ron Koval
>> >> Concordia U
>> >>
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