---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hey Mark, Tune to A442, lift strings etc. Then tune it. Move on. I have a big grin on my face. Regards Roger Most piano factories are shipping pianos out the door a full half semi tone sharp. Tuned a dozen Bechstein's in January hot from the factory all were tuned to A445. A real treat since one had to be prepped for a concert involving a wind trio. A440 what!!!!!!!!! Hell close enough for Rock and Roll. At 08:52 AM 4/1/2004, you wrote: >50 cents? Wow! > >I've been afraid to do my string-work at anything above A:440; > >1. pull to tension / lift coils squeeze beckets > >2. pull to 440 / seat & squeeze loops parralel > >3. pull to 440 / straighten wire over the bridge fore & aft / burnish it >down over the rear duplex > >4. pull to 440 / lift wire at agraffes and speaking length/capo, then front >duplex > >I'm just worried about having those bends occur other than at the >terminations. > >I gather you guys are saying: > >1.) there's no harm in pulling the strings (initially) that high? > >2.) you're acheiving precise results? > >3.) you're saving a boat-load of time? > >thanks, >Mark Cramer, >Brandon University > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of >Wolfley, Eric (wolfleel) >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:17 PM >To: 'College and University Technicians' >Subject: RE: Tuning stability > > >While on this subject...Pianotek has re-introduced the Acousticraft >Strate-Mate (sic) and I highly recommend it for anyone doing this type of >restringing work. Last week during spring break I restrung the 2 capo >sections of one of our Steinway Bs which is onstage one of our small recital >halls and as of today I feel it is stable enough to be used in recital. I do >all the positive bends that Fred mentions and concur with his experience as >to much faster stabilization. The Strate-Mate takes it one step further in >stretching the strings as well as leveling and straightening the "slow bend" >over the capo bar. I over pulled 50 cents on the first chipping, Strate- >Mated it, used the pitch-raise mode on the Cybertuner on the second pull and >it is holding very well at pitch now after one fine-tune pass. The other >benefit is in the leveling...I gang-filed the (new) hammers and didn't have >to do any extra mating on even one hammer. They were all "spot on" as some >say. This has never happened for me before and says a lot for carefully >traveling shanks before installing hammers and then checking them again >after they are on. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Eric Wolfley >Head Piano Technician >Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music >University of Cincinnati >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > -----Original Message----- >From: Fred Sturm [mailto:fssturm@unm.edu] >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:45 PM >To: College and University Technicians >Subject: RE: Tuning stability > >--On Monday, March 29, 2004 11:09 PM +0200 Isaac OLEG <oleg-i@noos.fr> >wrote: > > > Fred, I believe that if you warm the string rubbing them with a piece > > of wood , you'll get a very fast stabilisation, and you can avoid to > > bend them, bend can take place later I guess, is not it better? > >Isaac, > My experience tells me that I should make the positive bends in the >wire >soon after installing it for two reasons: > First, this will stabilize pitch faster. My sense is that the >process of >the wire "making the bends itself" over time is a very large proportion of >the cause for pitch drop of new wire. On new pianos from the factory, for >instance, I find that heavy pounding can drop pitch by 50 cents or more. >Not true of pianos I have restrung and made those positive bends. I >interpret that to mean that the pounding is largely helping to create those >bends. > Second, the tone becomes much clearer, with a less "fuzzy" pitch. >This >difference is pretty readily apparent. Pull to pitch without making bends >and listen. Make bends and pull to pitch, and listen. > I do like to make sure pitch is as close to standard as possible >when >making the bends. Hence, 25 cents sharp before making the bends from bridge >to hitch pin. Making the bends lowers pitch by 25 cents or a bit more. So I >pull sharp again before making the front bends, which leaves the string >close to pitch. >Regards, >Fred Sturm >University of New Mexico > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >_______________________________________________ >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > >_______________________________________________ >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/c0/46/0c/81/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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