This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I use the same for split or cracked bridge pin holes and to fill capstan = screw holes in keys. Mix 2 parts EPO-TEK 301-2 (Filler) with 1 part = EPO-TEK 301-2 (Hardener) and if you want, mix in their (I don't remember = the name) light brown fiber cellulose for wooden color. This Epoxy doesn't = come cheap and there will be an added charge for shipping hazardous = materials. The shelf life is only 6 months. =20 Hans Sander, RPT=20 >>> llafargue@charter.net 4/22/2004 9:13:03 AM >>> I'm pressed for time this morning, but*Epoxy Technology 1-800-227-2201. = Boston. It is a water thin (really water thin) epoxy you mix by weight. = Put piano on it's back (upright) and using a hair squeeze bottle, = inject/pour the epoxy into the open tuning pin holes. As it fills the = holes it also fills laminate separations and any cracks. Unless you have = some huge void, it fills them pretty quickly and you fill each hole to the = top. After drying you drill the holes out using a hand drill set at = proper angle using a bubble level attached to the top of drill. You will = find the drill follows the hole pretty well. EPOTEK may still have a = handout for this procedure and specifics. I have a copy somewhere in my = shop. I have used this on old pianos where the block could not be removed = or it was not practical financially or otherwise. The pins feel nice and = snug and very smooth and consistent. Let me know if you can't get the = info needed. Lance Lafargue, RPTLAFARGUE PIANOSNew Orleans Chapter, = PTG985.72P.IANOllafargue@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Greg = Granoff Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:30 PM To: College and University Technicians Subject: Re: Value of an old steinway vertical Lance, Some inquiring minds want to know just what IS optical epoxy, where you = can get it, and what is your procedure? Mind filling us in? Thanks! =20 Greg Granoff RPT Humboldt State University ----- Original Message -----=20 From: llafargue=20 To: 'College and University Technicians'=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:04 AM Subject: RE: Value of an old steinway vertical =20 I have 2 Steinway uprights (early 1900's) and plan to inject water thin = optical epoxy (EPOTEK), redrill and restring. I have done this on several = uprights and grands where replacing was not an option. Works great. Nice = feel. Lance Lafargue, RPTLAFARGUE PIANOSNew Orleans Chapter, PTG985.72P.IAN= Ollafargue@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of = Bdshull@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:31 PM To: caut@ptg.org Subject: Re: Value of an old steinway vertical Hi Ed,=20 I agree with Dale about this. Here in Southern California an 1890's = Steinway upright might still have a decent pinblock if the piano lived in = this climate most of its life, similar to the piano Dale restored. A few = real clean examples exist, valuing those is tough since they are so nice, = and should fetch more, perhaps quite a bit more....=20 Original bass strings can be incredible on a Steinway, with even the = steel-wound strings coming out great after turning, a rare event for that = type of winding. =20 Yes, "ebonized" was common in 19th century pianos, if the plate is clean = and undamaged the word will be stamped. Also the Steinway log will say = (sadly, one volume was stolen from Steinway recently, and wasn't photocopie= d, a terrible loss). =20 Bill Shull=20 Shull Piano Inc.=20 590 E Industrial Rd 2=20 San Bernardino, CA 92408=20 (909) 796-4226=20 In a message dated 4/19/04 6:24:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Erwinspiano@ao= l.com writes:=20 hi Ed=20 Don't panic yet. I paid $250.00 for an 1891 from the Manteca unified = school district about 8 years ago. It was Bahama yellow with pretty = flowers & about to fall over. Its is the one with a myriad of ogees = elegant three piece front & the round fluted legs. The block, board & many = things were quite good. The board has a lot of crown still. Amazing.Restrun= g with 3s or 4s,refinish,yes in original ebony, replace the missing three = piece cut outs new keytops. Very beautiful looking& sounding. If I did = this today I'd ask 15 k.=20 My opinion is that stwy uprights like this are worth anywhere between = $500.000 to $1500.00 in original & unbutchered condition. Hey do the math = on the items needed then speculate on the Market value in your area.hmmm.= =20 Dale Erwin=20 Dear List-=20 I'm dealing with a difficult situation with a customer who has purchased = an 1892 Steinway vertical on Ebay.=20 The piano has been restrung in the plain wire and repinned in the bass, = "turning the bass strings." The repinning was done with 4/0 pins with = apparently no preparation of the holes in the pinblock. Pin torque varies = wildly, with many high treble pins over 225 inch pounds. I cannot imagine = now how to restring properly without replacing the pinblock. =20 Raising pitch 80 cents and tuning was miserably difficult, perhaps tuning = will be manageable when the strings have stabilized....?=20 Refinishing is a thin black lacquer (were 1890's verticals done in = ebony?), and the brass lock plate and pedals have been carefully = polished.=20 Hammers have been re-shaped past regulation, key pins turned in the front = bushings, and key covers glued to fit the notch, with the tips overhanging,= and no shaping.=20 The customer had hopes of buying a piano that would become a family = heirloom. The seller told her the old bass strings were so good that they = didn't need replacement, and that she could eventually complete the = restoration with new hammers and dampers.=20 I would be interested in your opinions of what is the going value of an = 1892 Steinway vertical, rebuilt to very good playing and tuning condition, = and what the purchase price of the instrument as it is should be.=20 Also I would appreciate your comments on the pinblock.=20 Thank you very much.=20 Ed Sutton=20 Erwins Pianos Restorations=20 4721 Parker Rd.=20 Modesto, Ca 95357=20 209-577-8397=20 Rebuilt Steinway , Mason &Hamlin Sales=20 www.Erwinspiano.com =20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/70/0e/d2/16/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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