[CAUT] Sacrifice (was tuners- technology)

[David Ilvedson]

Thanks Fred...so the 4ths will be beating a good beat per second +...?

David I.



----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: Fred Sturm <fssturm@unm.edu>
To: "ilvey@sbcglobal.net, College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
Received: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 18:18:17 -0700
Subject: Re: [CAUT] Sacrifice (was tuners- technology)


>On 2/28/05 5:35 PM, "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>> In a related issue.   Ed brings up the issue of progressing fast beating
>> intervals and their, in his opinion, less of importance in the overall tuning
>> scheme.   I believe Steinway teaches a sort of 4th/5ths kind tuning, which
>> would probably mean less importance of fast beating interval progression...Can
>> anyone explain a "Steinway" style tuning?   I'm interested in what they
>> actually teach for tuning.   Maybe someone on the List has been trained
>> there...?
>> 
>> David Ilvedson

>    Boaz (I forget his last name, but it's long and full of letters <g>) had
>a post not too long ago where he talked about it. Basically, what I've heard
>many times over the years is that in tuning outward from the temperament,
>one aims for pure or nearly pure 5ths. Not really much different from doing
>a M3/M17 (or m3/M6 in the bass) and adjusting octave size that way, but more
>efficient since the hand with the hammer keeps holding the hammer. Bottom
>line: maybe a good bit more stretch than the average tuner uses, certainly
>more than has become the standard for the PTG tuning test.
>    And a side issue is that, although they will listen to some M3/M10/M17's
>from time to time to kind of check up, they don¹t fuss over making sure of
>minute progression of those beats. There's a sense of what's "good enough"
>and that it's more important that it be solid. If it's solid somewhere, and
>that somewhere might possibly be capable of a wee bit of improvement, leave
>it! Get the tuning done. Concentrate on immaculate, solid unisons. Leave
>perfection to those "PTG types." <g>
>    At least that is the general attitude I've picked up over the years,
>either directly or indirectly. All sources seem to point in that general
>direction.
>Regards,
>Fred Sturm
>University of New Mexico


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